Ongoing Sci-Fi, Comic Book Movie Thread v2

[#-3]

I really liked to morbius arc on the 90s cartoon and the blade movies. So it's easy to imagine a world where I was into the idea of a morbius movie. But I'm not for this one. It's on the wait for Netflix list.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Scorp, I think you have great judgment and I really value your opinion...but you went to the theater to see Cats?!?!?!?!

Yes! As soon as I saw that trailer I knew it had to be seen to be believed. It was a riot. Perplexingly awful.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Scorp, I think you have great judgment and I really value your opinion...but you went to the theater to see Cats?!?!?!?!

It's the role Judi Dench was born to play.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor

Sony still making 90s comic book movies

Sony is utterly disconnected from comic book fans.

No read on them whatsoever.

Because MCU is digging into stories of more fringe characters they probably figured they could do the same and still cash in.

Because audiences were clamouring for a Morbius flick. Especially a half assed one.

I wonder what compelled Leto to go for the role after the Joker misfire. Probably just work.

[KTrain]

And they have a Kraven The Hunter solo movie coming out. I don't see how they could pull that one off with the suspect quality they've produced so far.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by KTrain

And they have a Kraven The Hunter solo movie coming out. I don't see how they could pull that one off with the suspect quality they've produced so far.

They've really got to be careful with the Spiderman Rogues' Gallery...

[OptimalTates]

Would Marvel's new Blade have been announced or rumoured before Morbius? Could see Sony trying to get out in front of it and try to establish one of Blade's archnemesis in Morbius to force continued and more cross-over content even outside of Spider-Man.

[OptimalTates]

Originally Posted by Locke

They've really got to be careful with the Spiderman Rogues' Gallery...

Just as long as they don't screw up Kangaroo.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

First episode of Moon Knight was really well done. Very entertaining and I love the way they worked towards the ending of the episode.

Oscar Isaac is so talented.

I'll second this. Quite enjoyed it.

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by KTrain

And they have a Kraven The Hunter solo movie coming out. I don't see how they could pull that one off with the suspect quality they've produced so far.

Making a good Kraven The Hunter movie is easy. He just has to be a co-star in The Unbeatable Squirrel Girl movie. Easy peasy.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I’m not sure if this is encouraging or horrifying. Disney may be an evil homophobic corporation churning out the franchises but damn they also make movies with heart. Sounds like Discovery just wants to squeeze every penny out of DC.

The new owners of all things Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman are exploring an overhaul of DC Entertainment, multiple sources close to the situation told Variety.

Insiders say that Zaslav believes that the success of the merger, one that has left the company highly leveraged, will rest in no small part on unlocking the full potential of the DC Comics universe of characters. Discovery insiders believe that although DC has achieved cinematic success with recent films such as “Aquaman” and “The Batman,” it lacks a coherent creative and brand strategy. Discovery believes that several top-shelf characters such as Superman have been left to languish and need to be revitalized.

Zaslav has pledged to find $3 billion in synergies in the newly merged company, a signal of how important cost cutting will be to Warners’ new owners.

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/d...ax-1235232185/

[Strange Brew]

First of all, don't make cheesy, low budget tv shows about Superman. It should be an event when he is on the screen.

[Nadal Fan]

This is a great thing for DC. More DC content is never a bad thing and if we get another Superman movie that's even better, he's the world's first superhero without him they would be no more.

The thing I like about DC is, it's more director driven than the MCU.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

First of all, don't make cheesy, low budget tv shows about Superman. It should be an event when he is on the screen.

Not my thing, but Smallville was one of the most popular sci-fi tv shows of all time. Superman and Lois is getting quite positive reviews. The Arrowverse, overall, is a huge hit. I don't see WB backing away from that anytime soon.

[Harry Lime]

From what I understand, they want to put one person in charge of the entire DCEU, sort of like what Kevin Feige is to Marvel. Only, they were scared away by the chaos that was the Snyderverse, so they want to put a businessman in charge instead of a creative type.

The problem with the Snyderverse was that Snyder isn't very creative. He is a very good paint by numbers director. I'm a little bit terrified of what they are about to do to DC.

Some rambling, slightly associated

Spoiler!

I had a conversation recently with someone about the newly planned Blue Beetle movie, and how it could be really bad or really good. It was in the news recently for the casting of Susan Sarandon as (I assume) Ted Kord's mother. The Blue Beetle in this one is Reyes, so I'm assuming that this is set after the death of Ted Kord.

Our talk was roughly on whether DC/WB would actually go with a tragic comic character in Booster Gold for this movie, and the dark storyline that was Ted Kord's death.

Or just a cheery Reyes movie with no backstory.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by blankall

Not my thing, but Smallville was one of the most popular sci-fi tv shows of all time. Superman and Lois is getting quite positive reviews. The Arrowverse, overall, is a huge hit. I don't see WB backing away from that anytime soon.

No doubt those shows are profitable. But they are eroding the value of some of their most valuable IP.

Is Disney going to rush out and bring some X-men shows to market with low production value and C level talent? Those would make money too, but Disney knows better. No one is better at extracting long term value from their assets.

It would be as if Zuckerberg started selling ad space on Facebook the second people started using it.

The success you are describing is confined to niche programming. These characters and their place in popular culture are capable of generating a lot more than that.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

From what I understand, they want to put one person in charge of the entire DCEU, sort of like what Kevin Feige is to Marvel. Only, they were scared away by the chaos that was the Snyderverse, so they want to put a businessman in charge instead of a creative type.

The problem with the Snyderverse was that Snyder isn't very creative. He is a very good paint by numbers director. I'm a little bit terrified of what they are about to do to DC.

Some rambling, slightly associated

Spoiler!

I had a conversation recently with someone about the newly planned Blue Beetle movie, and how it could be really bad or really good. It was in the news recently for the casting of Susan Sarandon as (I assume) Ted Kord's mother. The Blue Beetle in this one is Reyes, so I'm assuming that this is set after the death of Ted Kord.

Our talk was roughly on whether DC/WB would actually go with a tragic comic character in Booster Gold for this movie, and the dark storyline that was Ted Kord's death.

Or just a cheery Reyes movie with no backstory.

A singular creative director seems like a good idea. Making that director Business focused as opposed to content focused seems like a mistake.

Just get someone who is going to take the ideas, characters and story in an interesting direction and go with it. This whole 'pandering to the masses' thing has blown up in their faces so many times I dont see why they continue to do it.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

No doubt those shows are profitable. But they are eroding the value of some of their most valuable IP.

Is Disney going to rush out and bring some X-men shows to market with low production value and C level talent? Those would make money too, but Disney knows better. No one is better at extracting long term value from their assets.

It would be as if Zuckerberg started selling ad space on Facebook the second people started using it.

The success you are describing is confined to niche programming. These characters and their place in popular culture are capable of generating a lot more than that.

I disagree. They attract pretty different audiences and it's pretty easy just to ignore the Arrowverse, if you're not into it. And I actually do think marvel will rush out a bunch of mutant themed shows, as soon as they are introduced in the MCU. Will likely get multiple mini series and a bunch of cartoons.

They are already reviving the 90s X-Men show. Well likely get at least kids orientated series and then a bunch of accompanying live action stuff.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by blankall

I disagree. They attract pretty different audiences and it's pretty easy just to ignore the Arrowverse, if you're not into it. And I actually do think marvel will rush out a bunch of mutant themed shows, as soon as they are introduced in the MCU. Will likely get multiple mini series and a bunch of cartoons.

They are already reviving the 90s X-Men show. Well likely get at least kids orientated series and then a bunch of accompanying live action stuff.

Well cartoons are one thing. Lots of Avengers cartoons out there too.

But I don’t see alot of Iron Man tv shows, and that is nowhere near the iconic character that Superman is.

Nothing against these shows. There is just no strategy to develop the type of brand quality needed to build out the value that Disney has. They learned their own lesson cranking out cheaper direct to video sequels to their huge animated classics. Those all made money, but only in the short run.

If Disney does some X-men tv shows they will be high production value with high quality talent. Oscar Isaac is some character no one has heard of for example. Imagine what they will do with a flagship property like X men.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

The Batman is on crave.