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				The cost to get rid of Monahan will be at least a 2nd 
 
Schmaltz is a #2 C. What do they cost on the trade market? A 1st plus. 
 
That’s why moving Monahan as part of a deadline deal doesn’t make a lot of sense - you’re paying twice. 
			
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Was thinking about Schmaltz as option before his recent scoring tear.
 
Jarnkrok & Stastny are at the top of my wishlist.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			03-15-2022, 01:53 PM
			
			
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			If Monahan is going I really hope it is for a rental.  
 
Could a team look at him and understand he is not a Sutter type player and think they could rebuild him a little with a change of scenery? 
 
I have thought a Monahan-Debrusk deal makes sense for both sides as the B’s have been after a center for a while and have good wingers they could play with Sean. Flames make that deal then send picks/prospects for Jarnkrok that would be some nice work
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-15-2022, 01:54 PM
			
			
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			I just can't believe CP is seriously discussing "getting rid of Monahan".  Such an impossible and implausible thought even a year ago.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-15-2022, 01:57 PM
			
			
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				I just can't believe CP is seriously discussing "getting rid of Monahan".  Such an impossible and implausible thought even a year ago. 
			
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However you brand it, it’s needed to not only retain our top players but potentially add for this season.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-15-2022, 01:57 PM
			
			
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				I just can't believe CP is seriously discussing "getting rid of Monahan".  Such an impossible and implausible thought even a year ago. 
			
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It’s not just CP.
 https://twitter.com/user/status/1503760603881644040
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-15-2022, 01:59 PM
			
			
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			Can anyone see some type of dvorak,chariot deal coming in the next couple of days?  
 
Has been speculated on elsewhere but would Dvorak be an option out of Montreal?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-15-2022, 02:06 PM
			
			
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			Dvorak is currently playing worse than Monahan.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-15-2022, 02:09 PM
			
			
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			Monahan, Valimaki, 2nd (CGY) ($6.8M for Monahan hit + Valimaki's AHL hit)  
 
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Connor Brown, and Chris Tierney ($7.1M)
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-15-2022, 02:09 PM
			
			
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				Can anyone see some type of dvorak,chariot deal coming in the next couple of days?  
 
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I threw that exact package out the other day
 
Monahan+Pelletier for Dvroak+Charoit. It was my justification to the “rumor” the Flames were still into Charoit and the Habs love Pelletier. 
 
DvorK makes $4.4 for 3 more years after this so if he is a legit second line C that would be huge for the Org especially when they are likely going to have to go over $10M per for each of Johnny and Chucky. Lindholm and Dvorak as your top 2 C’s for the next could of years coming in at 4.85 and 4.45M respectively is how you afford 2 wingers making over $10M
 
Maybe the Flames add a 2nd or something else but I would have interest in that deal
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-15-2022, 02:10 PM
			
			
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				Monahan, Valimaki, 2nd (CGY) ($6.8M for Monahan hit + Valimaki's AHL hit)  
 
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I would be good with this deal
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-15-2022, 02:11 PM
			
			
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				I just can't believe CP is seriously discussing "getting rid of Monahan".  Such an impossible and implausible thought even a year ago. 
			
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The writing has been on the wall for a while. The team itself has been shopping him for a couple years now.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-15-2022, 02:11 PM
			
			
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				Can anyone see some type of dvorak,chariot deal coming in the next couple of days?  
 
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Dvorak is signed for 3 more years after this year. I have a feeling if they are moving out Monahan it will be for a definite upgrade on an expiring deal to make a push this year and free up money for next year.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-15-2022, 02:13 PM
			
			
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				Dvorak is currently playing worse than Monahan. 
			
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By what measure? 
 
Dvorak PPG: .47
 
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			03-15-2022, 02:21 PM
			
			
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			03-15-2022, 02:24 PM
			
			
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				Dvorak is signed for 3 more years after this year. I have a feeling if they are moving out Monahan it will be for a definite upgrade on an expiring deal to make a push this year and free up money for next year. 
			
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Doesn't need to be an upgrade if it clears money, as long as it doesn't hurt the team.  The issue is that, though he's a whipping boy, there's not a lot of equivalent guys available, let alone an upgrade, on teams that want to absorb the salary for a year.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-15-2022, 02:26 PM
			
			
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			Don't trade Valimaki, Pelletier or 2023 1st rounder. We need them next year to fill the roster as they are cheap and good young skilled players.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			03-15-2022, 02:29 PM
			
			
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			03-15-2022, 02:29 PM
			
			
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				Don't trade Valimaki, Pelletier or 2023 1st rounder. We need them next year. 
			
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This! We have 2 of our top 6 who have played themselves out of our cap space.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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