02-27-2022, 09:27 PM
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#1741
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Again, it depends on if he's a rational actor. If he's rational, there's literally nothing to gain by using them. The threat of them is the weapon.
If he's not rational, welp, we're screwed
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So if he's not rational than we need to push back in various ways as the alternative is to just let him do what he wants.
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02-27-2022, 09:35 PM
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#1742
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Originally Posted by #-3
From a western prospective, I think the ideal thing would be to split Russia up into 4 to 5 different countries, so they lose such a dominant population and resource position over the rest of Europe.
The two big problems with this, is in the 20th century we have already seen many problem with large alliances drawing other countries borders. And the reason this wasn't attempted at the end of the USSR, is we wanted something strong and stable to be in control of all of those nukes. Not really certain what the solution is, but Putin would be much weaker as the lead of a Moscow or St Petersburg city-state or the small republic of Volga.... But I don't know what you do about the first two problems to make this a palatable goal for western societies, so best case Russia pulls back from all Ukrainian territories and overthrows Putin, so we can wait another 30 years for something like this to boil over again.
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Portioning a country from the outside never ends well. They would need to partition themselves along whatever natural ethnic or regional fault lines there are in the society, if any. Even then it would likely require a civil war.
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02-27-2022, 09:41 PM
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#1743
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02-27-2022, 09:45 PM
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#1744
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Originally Posted by FlameOn
Can we bring this to Canada please?
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Amen to that. I'd be in favor of an outright ban on real estate purchases from anonymous buyers.
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02-27-2022, 09:46 PM
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#1745
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Originally Posted by FlameOn
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It's the UK, it'll be a long list of what ever the Russian is for Mickey mouse and the UK government will happily look the other way for a brown bag stuffed full of tenners
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02-27-2022, 09:55 PM
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#1746
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An Aeroflot flight from Miami to Moscow violated Canadian airspace earlier today.
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02-27-2022, 09:59 PM
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#1747
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Originally Posted by edslunch
Portioning a country from the outside never ends well. They would need to partition themselves along whatever natural ethnic or regional fault lines there are in the society, if any. Even then it would likely require a civil war.
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Come on. There's gotta be a time where the west arbitrarily partioning a country worked, no?
They partioned Palestine arbitrarily and gave some to the displaced... oh nevermind
Well they successfully partitioned the middle east after WW1 and created Iraq and Iran and... oh right. Nevermind.
What about when the west partitioned India and Pakistan after British Rule? That worked out great? No? Oh right.
I've got one! The west put in arbitrary borders around countries in Africa and that ended the bloodshed, no? Oh, right.
Maybe we don't do it this time
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02-27-2022, 10:00 PM
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#1748
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02-27-2022, 10:10 PM
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#1749
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Come on. There's gotta be a time where the west arbitrarily partioning a country worked, no?
They partioned Palestine arbitrarily and gave some to the displaced... oh nevermind
Well they successfully partitioned the middle east after WW1 and created Iraq and Iran and... oh right. Nevermind.
What about when the west partitioned India and Pakistan after British Rule? That worked out great? No? Oh right.
I've got one! The west put in arbitrary borders around countries in Africa and that ended the bloodshed, no? Oh, right.
Maybe we don't do it this time
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says the guy living in a partitioned country with the longest unguarded border in the world and not had a war with our brother ex Brits since 1812
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02-27-2022, 10:12 PM
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#1751
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Originally Posted by chemgear
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Ye God's that looks like a chart for bitcoin, this is bad!!
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02-27-2022, 10:12 PM
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#1752
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Originally Posted by kn
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I was kind of wondering about this earlier, what do we do when this is violated?
Last edited by Samonadreau; 02-27-2022 at 10:15 PM.
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02-27-2022, 10:15 PM
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#1753
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathgod
Amen to that. I'd be in favor of an outright ban on real estate purchases from anonymous buyers.
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Agreed, maybe regular Canadian can afford a place once all the Chinese/Russian money laundering is gone. Foreign buyers tax not quite cutting it.
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02-27-2022, 10:18 PM
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#1754
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by chemgear
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Luxury Goods being sold on the black market will become the currency of Russia.
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02-27-2022, 10:23 PM
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Norm!
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/...nuclear-status
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Voters in Belarus have approved constitutional reforms that will allow the country to host nuclear weapons at a time when the former Soviet republic has become a launchpad for Russian troops invading Ukraine.
Russian news agencies on Monday cited the Belarusian elections commission as saying that some 65.2 percent of people who took part in a referendum voted in favour of the change.
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It could bring nuclear weapons back on Belarusian soil for the first time since the country gave them up after the fall of the Soviet Union and raises the stakes at a time when Lukashenko has fallen behind Russian President Vladimir Putin’s military assault on Ukraine.
Putin on Sunday ordered Russian nuclear deterrent forces be put on high alert in a dramatic escalation of tensions with the West.
Speaking at a polling station on Sunday, Lukashenko said that he could ask Russia to return nuclear weapons to Belarus.
“If you [the West] transfer nuclear weapons to Poland or Lithuania, to our borders, then I will turn to Putin to return the nuclear weapons that I gave away without any conditions,” Lukashenko said.
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The reforms also cement Lukashenko’s 27-year-old grip on power as they allow the president to stay in power until 2035 and give him lifetime immunity from prosecution once he leaves office.
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02-27-2022, 10:24 PM
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#1756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Luxury Goods being sold on the black market will become the currency of Russia.
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The Baltic states are about to go into the smuggling business in a big way
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02-27-2022, 10:39 PM
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#1757
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Originally Posted by Samonadreau
I was kind of wondering about this earlier, what do we do when this is violated?
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we're canadian... so we'll probably apologize for restricting canadian air space! 
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02-27-2022, 10:42 PM
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#1758
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
says the guy living in a partitioned country with the longest unguarded border in the world and not had a war with our brother ex Brits since 1812
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You know, it isn’t as easy being Canada as Canada makes it look.
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02-27-2022, 11:28 PM
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#1759
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
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Hopefully the Belarusian army is exposed as inept, and then Lukashenko gets booted. Could end up hurting Russia, by opening up a second front.
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02-27-2022, 11:28 PM
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#1760
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Samonadreau
I was kind of wondering about this earlier, what do we do when this is violated?
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We do what Canada always does, we send them a strongly worded letter
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