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Old 02-26-2022, 11:11 AM   #1201
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Bananas. Absolutely bananas
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Old 02-26-2022, 11:13 AM   #1202
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Fake.

To check it out I literally had to come to Pornhub with my six years old daughter lying on my shoulder asking for her night fairly tale
"Sorry Sweetie, Daddy just needs to make sure the prince and princess, from last night's tale, lived happily ever after"
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Old 02-26-2022, 11:14 AM   #1203
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Russia's going into social media blackout soon except for official sanctioned Putin puppet heads. Various reports from BBC, Vice, Reuters, etc of Twitter, Facebook, Whatsapp being restricted.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60533083
https://twitter.com/user/status/1497591587223789570
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Old 02-26-2022, 11:17 AM   #1204
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I anticipate the day we hear of Putins death, by whatever means, as much if not more than Bin Laden.
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I know there are individuals around here with a lot more military knowledge than myself. I thought it would be an interesting question to pose and discuss.

If you don't know the answer, then check your attitude boomer.
I hate to be that guy but...

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Old 02-26-2022, 11:17 AM   #1206
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Well if anything was going to get your citizens to retaliate..

Nows the time, Russians.
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Old 02-26-2022, 11:17 AM   #1207
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I like the idea and hope they are doing something like this, but that picture in the tweet is obviously photoshopped.
Some actual changed signs.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1497634623198621696
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Wow, this is a big time move. Good for them.
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Old 02-26-2022, 11:32 AM   #1209
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I like the idea and hope they are doing something like this, but that picture in the tweet is obviously photoshopped.

Exactly, my cousin in Ukraine says nothing like this is true.
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Old 02-26-2022, 11:32 AM   #1210
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Need to call the madman's bluff. I see it as scare tactics.

The costs are quickly outweighing anything they can gain by continuing this futile endeavour.
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Need to call the madman's bluff. I see it as scare tactics.

The costs are quickly outweighing anything they can gain by continuing this futile endeavour.
Calling a bluff on a nuclear armed madman isn't exactly something you should do lightly.
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Old 02-26-2022, 11:38 AM   #1212
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I think if Russia does this, the West gets pushed further and further towards providing real military support. Maybe even direct air attacks on positions. You can't just flatten a city of 2 million people.
Agreed. It would also fuel domestic opposition to Putin’s regime. The question is now detached from reality and irrational has Putin become.
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Old 02-26-2022, 11:39 AM   #1213
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That Pornhub idea is actually kinda great. People should send them messages that they actually do this.

The company that owns Pornhub is a really big player in internet porn IIRC, owning many if not most of the most popular sites.
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Old 02-26-2022, 11:39 AM   #1214
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Fake.

To check it out I literally had to come to Pornhub with my six years old daughter lying on my shoulder asking for her night fairly tale
Dude at least wait until she's in bed first
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1497636552003969024

Great news.
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Calling a bluff on a nuclear armed madman isn't exactly something you should do lightly.
The only thing Putin respects is strength.

Rule one of nuclear weapons is you can’t actually use them (Japan aside).

Punch him in the nose, and send him home. He’s not going to start setting off nukes. Crazier men than he have had them and not used them.

Appeasement is going to cost more lives than it saves.
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The only thing Putin respects is strength.

Rule one of nuclear weapons is you can’t actually use them (Japan aside).

Punch him in the nose, and send him home. He’s not going to start setting off nukes. Crazier men than he have had them and not used them.

Appeasement is going to cost more lives than it saves.
I don’t see how escalation, or threat of escalation, is any sort of path forward when nukes are involved. To make some sort of assessment that “he’s not crazy enough” isn’t something to mess around with.

Also, if your threat is empty it won’t be acknowledged - and if the threat of nuclear action is real, then so would the response.
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Finally. German public not too happy making so many bad headlines. Politicians finally caved.
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The only thing Putin respects is strength.

Rule one of nuclear weapons is you can’t actually use them (Japan aside).

Punch him in the nose, and send him home. He’s not going to start setting off nukes. Crazier men than he have had them and not used them.

Appeasement is going to cost more lives than it saves.
I'm not saying appease, but a cornered dog will bite.
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I don’t see how escalation, or threat of escalation, is any sort of path forward when nukes are involved. To make some sort of assessment that “he’s not crazy enough” isn’t something to mess around with.

Also, if your threat is empty it won’t be acknowledged - and if the threat of nuclear action is real, then so would the response.
Nuclear weapons are a game of brinkmanship. They always have been.

You don’t use them until you have to - especially when your opponent has more of them, and you don’t know where they all are. And you definitely don’t use them first.

An intervention now doesn’t threaten the Russian state. It doesn’t threaten anything but the Russian army.

I don’t think Putin has ever been in this game just to die. And I don’t think his actions are “crazy” - I think they’re hyper rational. I think they’re an enormous gamble. But they’re not crazy.

He’s doing this because he thinks it will work and he can get away with it.

Failing to intervene will make it impossible to denuclearize any other nation via guaranteeing their security.
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