[Trade] Toffoli to Flames for 2022 1st *, 2023 5th, Heineman, and Pitlick

[mile]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1493316178000814080

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Kane might score as many goals, but Toffoli playing the game the right way and not being an utter trainwreck off the ice automatically puts him far ahead.

Again, are you going for stats or trying to win?

The two don't always go hand in hand.

Oiler people still seem unable to grasp this, unbelievably.

Plus, whereas the Flames filled the hole on their roster, the Oilers didn't touch any of their holes when they acquired Kane.

And...speaking of holes; as always, E=NG

[FanIn80]

Sportsnet Headline: Flames Make Minor Move as Oilers Surge with New Coach

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Sportsnet Headline: Flames Make Minor Move as Oilers Surge with New Coach

Lol. This should become a regular thing.

[looooob]

Originally Posted by mile

https://twitter.com/user/status/1493316178000814080

uhoh! Lucic and Monahan don't like Toffoli anymore! trouble in paradise

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by dino7c

of course you do

I mean, I want them to do well, and if they win a cup with this group of centres, they’ll easily have the poorest centre depth of any team in decades to do it.

But Sutter nearly won it all with Conroy and Yelle as his only two natural centres, and this roster is the 2002 Red Wings compared to the 04 Flames.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by mile

https://twitter.com/user/status/1493316178000814080

How do they all have each others mobile numbers?

Is there an NHL phonebook exclusive to players?

(I guess they got it off Looch)

Also Lindholm and Backlund clearly competing for "C" dibs.

[stemit14]

Can anyone think of the last time the flames made a big acquisition for a playoff run like this during the season? They’ve been close on a bunch the last few years and even pulled one off in the Kadri trade except he nixed it with his NTC.

The last one that I can think of would be Jokinen. That was a huge acquisition at the time.


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[Mattman]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Sportsnet Headline: Flames Make Minor Move as Oilers Surge with New Coach

Sportsnet Headline: Flames Trade Potential 1st Overall in 2023 for Depth Forward as Oilers Close the Gap for Playoff Spot

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Can anyone think of the last time the flames made a big acquisition for a playoff run like this during the season? They’ve been close on a bunch the last few years and even pulled one off in the Kadri trade except he nixed it with his NTC.

The last one that I can think of would be Jokinen. That was a huge acquisition at the time.


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This is most reminiscent of '09, except this time we're the Blackhawks with home ice.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

^Thanks all for the explanation on "no-Tylers"

I cannot believe I forgot a Simpsons reference. For shame.

[cannon7]

Henieman might still turn into something, but he isn't lighting up the Swedish league as a 20 year old.

Pitlick was a head scratcher when Treliving acquired him and he struggled to fit into this roster. Good to get that effectively dead cap off the books.

Edit: Wrote Swiss instead of Swedish.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

And then maybe they don't have Tanev, or Markstrom.
I'd say things worked out pretty, pretty good...

Also, I am having trouble following the first sentence. It's steep if the Flames don't tank? Firstly, tanking implies on purpose, which is not going to happen.
Secondly, I think you mean it's steep if the Flames do falter and the pick ends up high...

If I recall, Flames gave up a 1st rounder on a trade for a D-man and frickin tanked to near the bottom. Who would've expected the Flames to give away a high draft pick before the trade happened. So, that sentence made very good sense. As for Markstrom, I'm still not totally sold on why Tre needed to get him when there are cheaper options. I think implying that Markstrom is a savior on this team as compared to Kipper wouldn't be fair to what the players are doing in front of their goalie at this point in time.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

This is most reminiscent of '09, except this time we're the Blackhawks with home ice.

Man, what that 09 team could've done if Gio, Dion and Regehr weren't various shades of severely injured.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

I mean, I want them to do well, and if they win a cup with this group of centres, they’ll easily have the poorest centre depth of any team in decades to do it.

But Sutter nearly won it all with Conroy and Yelle as his only two natural centres, and this roster is the 2002 Red Wings compared to the 04 Flames.

I think Lindholm Backlund Monahan Ruzicka is probably on par with ROR/Schenn/Bozak/ whoever played 4th line that year. And Calgary has better wingers than they did.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Can anyone think of the last time the flames made a big acquisition for a playoff run like this during the season? They’ve been close on a bunch the last few years and even pulled one off in the Kadri trade except he nixed it with his NTC.

The last one that I can think of would be Jokinen. That was a huge acquisition at the time.

Yes, it was Jokinen in 2009.

The only "big" in-season trade since then was Bourque for Cammalleri, but that wasn't really a load-up for the playoffs type deal.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by getbak

Yes, it was Jokinen in 2009.

The only "big" in-season trade since then was Bourque for Cammalleri, but that wasn't really a load-up for the playoffs type deal.

Why must you break open old wounds??

Jokinen....

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by getbak

Former Nucks... Toffoli, Markstrom, Tanev, Gudbranson
Drafted with pick acquired from Nucks... Andersson
Drafted after being passed-over by the Nucks... Tkachuk


Oh, Dim Jim, we'll miss you.

We’re gonna get Miller, Horvat or Garland somehow.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Man, what that 09 team could've done if Gio, Dion and Regehr weren't various shades of severely injured.

I don't think we were well enough structured in our game to overcome the Hawks in that series, even with a better blue line..

If I recall correctly we were trying to run and gun against prime Kane & Toews.

But we did push them 6 games without those key guys. Too bad we were a terrible road team during those years.

Cammy, Iginla and Jokinen though - a powerplay unit's dream.

[rogermexico]

Kind of off topic, but didn't the Bourque / Cammalleri trade come on the heels of Kelly Hrudey just tearing into Bourque on HNIC? I might have this wrong but I remember Hrudey just ripping him apart and the trade to get Squid back coming pretty quickly afterwards.