2021/2022 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Muta

The mod is busy fangirling like the rest of us right now, can you wait on that request?

No longer a mod so indeed I'm just frantically waiting like the rest of you common folk!

[agulati]

Originally Posted by Muta

The mod is busy fangirling like the rest of us right now, can you wait on that request?

The one time Jiri regrets not being a mod anymore.

[chummer]

Please be Toffoli!

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by chummer

Please be Toffoli!

I’ll settle for Miller

[bzoo02]

All quiet on the insider front on twitter. No smoke yet.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by Muta

The mod is busy fangirling like the rest of us right now, can you wait on that request?

He’s not a mod but he did sleep at a holiday inn express last night

[SuperMatt18]

There goes my productivity for the morning!

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Coleman is better in every facet of the game than Anderson. That would be a horrible deal.

Anderson is a possession & defensive black hole, while Coleman is an absolute master in both areas, while also producing 5v5 points & goals at much better rates.

Oh, and he costs $600k less.

Trading Coleman for Anderson straight up would be a great way to make this team significantly worse just to get a bit younger

I get that you are a big time analytics guy, but the thing that stands out to me, is that Coleman is a guy who just played on back to back Stanley Cup winning teams. He's a had a very good taste of what it takes to win in the playoffs. A big part of why the Flames paid this guy is what he brings in terms of that winning experience.

So for me it makes no sense to get a guy, start winning and look like a playoff team...than trade him for someone else who has a lot less of that experience and a lot of consistency issues. The off ice intangibles are a big reason why they targeted Coleman so hard, and thus far it would seem that he is delivering even if the production has not quite caught up yet.

I personally would be willing to bet that Coleman at the end of this contract will be more effective than Anderson will be at the end of his.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

There goes my productivity for the morning!

Mine was already gone, this just gives me an excuse internally.

[Vinny01]

I took today off to nurse the super bowl hangover. A flames trade would make for a great way to spend the day sitting around feeling like crap

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by chummer

Please be Toffoli!

Quiet here in QC, if it's a trade I am sure it isn't with MTL.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by nik-

The Flames have acquired Nikita Kucherov for a 5th round pick, cash, and Harvey the Hound's old tongue.

Absolutely too high a price to pay. Harvey's tongue is priceless!

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Coleman is better in every facet of the game than Anderson. That would be a horrible deal.

Anderson is a possession & defensive black hole, while Coleman is an absolute master in both areas, while also producing 5v5 points & goals at much better rates.

Oh, and he costs $600k less.

Trading Coleman for Anderson straight up would be a great way to make this team significantly worse just to get a bit younger

I don't actually have a dog in this fight (IMO the contracts are similar value), but is the bolded actually true?

Player A (counting backwards from this year at the top)
CF% oZS%
55.3 50.1
50.5 40.8
47 41.3
46 38.6
46.1 38.9
45.3 34.0
43.4 29.3

Player B
CF% oZS%
50.1 52.5
55.4 61.1
47.1 49.8 (26 gp 1 goal season)
50.2 44.8
53.5 59.7
46.2 46.1


The above was all-situations...I should have done EVS since Coleman has spent more time on the PK. At a glance Coleman is definitely better at EVS, but Anderson doesn't seem notably bad...but maybe some wonks can paint a better picture.

Career EVS numbers:
CF% oZS%
50.5 41.8
vs.
49.8 50.4

[bzoo02]

https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/stat...nz0kl7u9A&s=19

Make it so!

[Toonage]

Toffoli to CGY picking up stream according to Friedman

FlamesAreOne and Yoho I'll never doubt you again

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

I get that you are a big time analytics guy, but the thing that stands out to me, is that Coleman is a guy who just played on back to back Stanley Cup winning teams. He's a had a very good taste of what it takes to win in the playoffs. A big part of why the Flames paid this guy is what he brings in terms of that winning experience.

So for me it makes no sense to get a guy, start winning and look like a playoff team...than trade him for someone else who has a lot less of that experience and a lot of consistency issues. The off ice intangibles are a big reason why they targeted Coleman so hard, and thus far it would seem that he is delivering even if the production has not quite caught up yet.

I personally would be willing to bet that Coleman at the end of this contract will be more effective than Anderson will be at the end of his.

I should have styled THEORETICAL like this since it wasn't an actual suggestion (Coleman's NTC), but since the contracts expire the same year they are a valid comparison.

[SuperMatt18]

Friedman isn't one to tweet specifics like that usually unless it's close

[Savvy27]

Originally Posted by Flames1217

Quiet here in QC, if it's a trade I am sure it isn't with MTL.

To be honest, I beg To differ...

[chummer]

Originally Posted by FlamesAreOne

Big news incoming...

Well done sir, you too Yoho.

[SuperMatt18]

I really hope it's not Pelletier going the other way