2021/2022 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

Seems Jarmo is open to trade offers for Roslovic and Domi. Roslovic is RFA and Domi is UFA.

Wonder if they do a straight swap for Monahan and Dube. Roslovic is one of Tkachuks good friends, his homecoming to Columbus hasn't gone as he'd like so he might get reinvigorated playing with his buddy. Domi is a gritty forward that can play either wing and I think would be more effective than Dube at this point. Dube needs more time to develop.

Not sure how line combos could go but would be a good trade for both teams.

Yuck. I would rather keep Monahan and Dube.

[Yikes]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Welcome to CP, but yikes

Here is the way I see it, outside of the box.



1) Markstrom, I think that he might just be on a 1 season tear, he spent a good number of seasons in Vancouver and was just ok. Now the excuses are flowing...he saw alot of shots, he did not have alot of help...etc. Behind it all he could be just another mediocre goalie that got hot. Boston is in the hunt, Markstrom is on fire and Rask is gone. SELL HIGH.


2) Marchand should have gotten 10 and he will get 10 his next suspension, is he on thin ice....dunno but see: Nazem Kadri. Simple solution to calm his #### down might be to give him the C.



3) Debrusk wants out, plain and simple.


4) Gio slots in EZ, Hanifin is from Boston and has a favorable contract.


5) Hall is from Calgary, plays the right game to slot in on the second line yesterday


6) This might solve the Monahan contract


7) Even with the Monahan contract solved no one knows if we can keep both JG and Matthew..this is fact. What is also fact is either one can be moved.


8) Laine is 23 years old a huge body, a right shot and proven sniper. Sure he has weaknesses, every player does. What we get back over and above Laine...don't know.



9) After all the smoke clears, not knowing what the Tkachuk contract looks like and not knowing if we can move Monahan and his price tag we might be further ahead with cap space and added probably 50 goals.


Marchand as a pipe dream...probably.



Big question is Vladar.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

Seems Jarmo is open to trade offers for Roslovic and Domi. Roslovic is RFA and Domi is UFA.

Wonder if they do a straight swap for Monahan and Dube. Roslovic is one of Tkachuks good friends, his homecoming to Columbus hasn't gone as he'd like so he might get reinvigorated playing with his buddy. Domi is a gritty forward that can play either wing and I think would be more effective than Dube at this point. Dube needs more time to develop.

Not sure how line combos could go but would be a good trade for both teams.

I think that Tre has to have a conversation with Sutter and find out if Monahan is part of the plan for the rest of the season. He is not a bottom six player, and given a checking role with Ritchie on the wing he is replacement level. The few weeks when he had two good wingers he looked like a valuable player.

The point is, if Monahan is not going to be played with wingers that complement him, then I think he can be moved.

I would forget Domi and look at Roslovic as a right handed C/RW. Dube is a better player at centre, and these two might actually complement each other. I know that it's trendy to crap all over Monahan on CP, but Columbus can handle a straight trade capwise, and are desperately thin at centre ice.

It also leaves Valimaki as a serious trade chip to spend on another winger for that line. If Monahan and Valimaki can be turned into a line of (Dude) - Dube - Roslovic, I would call that a win, and it makes it easier to sign Johnny and Tkachuk.

Personally I would rather find a RW for that third line, but am worried that Ritchie trumps even Malkin for icetime for some reason.

[Roof-Daddy]

Yeah, I think we're all being punk'ed here.

Long time reader, first time poster my ass.

[Yikes]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Yeah, I think we're all being punk'ed here.

Long time reader, first time poster my ass.

Correct, long time reader and first time poster.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Big deal. Would you rather win the division with the team you have or make the playoffs while not having to lose a couple of key pieces while adding a star power forward for the playoff run? Mark Stone is a big piece of that team but so is Reilly Smith and William Karlsson, this way they can circumvent the cap to keep them all. It is bs.

Plus, with how weak the Pacific division is, I don't think there's any advantage to winning the division. You'd most likely be playing a stronger central team opponent.

[1qqaaz]

I'm fine with trading assets while their values are at all time highs. At least in theory.
If you somehow know when that is.

But if the team has a reputation for constantly trading good players, it'll earn a reputation for being an unstable place to stay. No incentive to sign long term deals and settle down.
Plus, if you trade players who are playing well, you'll only be left with underperformers. At that point, the team is basically always rebuilding.

And many guys have NTCs and NMCs. That includes Markstrom.
I still dislike his contract, but there's pretty much nothing that can be done. Even if he does have value now, he's unlikely to be traded.
That's beyond the fact that trading him would basically forfeit the season.

As an alternative, it might be a good idea to buy low on players. Acquire people who are underperforming and could really do well with a change of scenery.
For an example, I think Ryan Pulock is a much better player than what he has shown this year. Unfortunately, the cap wouldn't work in a trade like that.

[Yikes]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I'm fine with trading assets while their values are at all time highs. At least in theory.
If you somehow know when that is.

But if the team has a reputation for constantly trading good players, it'll earn a reputation for being an unstable place to stay. No incentive to sign long term deals and settle down.
Plus, if you trade players who are playing well, you'll only be left with underperformers. At that point, the team is basically always rebuilding.

And many guys have NTCs and NMCs. That includes Markstrom.
I still dislike his contract, but there's pretty much nothing that can be done. Even if he does have value now, he's unlikely to be traded.
That's beyond the fact that trading him would basically forfeit the season.

As an alternative, it might be a good idea to buy low on players. Acquire people who are underperforming and could really do well with a change of scenery.
For an example, I think Ryan Pulock is a much better player than what he has shown this year. Unfortunately, the cap wouldn't work in a trade like that.

The big thing for me is Markstrom's past as a starter, moving Monahan's contract, and the fact that we probably can't sign both JG and Tkachuk.

[TheScorpion]

Again, and I don't know why it has to be said. Trading Hanifin makes less than zero sense and the Flames would be particularly foolish to move him for Jake DeBrusk, of all people.

[megatron]

Originally Posted by Yikes

Correct, long time reader and first time poster.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Yikes

I am a firm believer in selling high, regardless of the asset

Great way to ensure that you never win anything

[Yikes]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Great way to ensure that you never win anything

Like the Flames you mean? And yeah, I am the guy that would have moved both Kiprusoff and Iginla after the run.



Hey...you guys can sit on your hands all you want....another fact is the we might not be able to sign either JG or Tkachuk.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Yikes

Here is the way I see it, outside of the box.



1) Markstrom, I think that he might just be on a 1 season tear, he spent a good number of seasons in Vancouver and was just ok. Now the excuses are flowing...he saw alot of shots, he did not have alot of help...etc. Behind it all he could be just another mediocre goalie that got hot. Boston is in the hunt, Markstrom is on fire and Rask is gone. SELL HIGH.


2) Marchand should have gotten 10 and he will get 10 his next suspension, is he on thin ice....dunno but see: Nazem Kadri. Simple solution to calm his #### down might be to give him the C.



3) Debrusk wants out, plain and simple.


4) Gio slots in EZ, Hanifin is from Boston and has a favorable contract.


5) Hall is from Calgary, plays the right game to slot in on the second line yesterday


6) This might solve the Monahan contract


7) Even with the Monahan contract solved no one knows if we can keep both JG and Matthew..this is fact. What is also fact is either one can be moved.


8) Laine is 23 years old a huge body, a right shot and proven sniper. Sure he has weaknesses, every player does. What we get back over and above Laine...don't know.



9) After all the smoke clears, not knowing what the Tkachuk contract looks like and not knowing if we can move Monahan and his price tag we might be further ahead with cap space and added probably 50 goals.


Marchand as a pipe dream...probably.



Big question is Vladar.

Username checks out. Wtf are you on?

[Tkachukwagon]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1491920420559556613

…back to some trade rumours.

[Yikes]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Again, and I don't know why it has to be said. Trading Hanifin makes less than zero sense and the Flames would be particularly foolish to move him for Jake DeBrusk, of all people.

I don't recall saying I would trade Hanifin for DeBrusk as a single deal.

[AT77]

Monahan
Dube
Zadorov
Zary
Zavgorodny
Basically any other player whose last name starts with Z
2022 1st
2022 2nd (Flames pick, not Florida's)
2023 1st or 2nd

for

Laine
Domi
Roslovic

Dump Pitlick and Ritche to someone other teams with 3rd-7th round picks as cap dumps. Buyout Lucic and trade Backlund next off season to extend Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Laine, Domi, Mangiapaine, Roslovic, and Kylington. We'll have about $47 mill in cap space which should be good for those signings.

For this playoff run:

Gaudreau - Lindholm - Laine
Tkachuk - Domi - Roslovic
Mangiapaine - Backlund - Coleman
Richardson - Ruzicka - Lewis

Call up Valimaki, give some playing time to Pelletier and Phillips.

lesss gooooo

[TheoFleury]

Hanifin's emergence might be the most important thing that happened this season imo. He didn't turn into the offensive guy that was projected... what we got is even better though. He just doesn't get the hype because most media and fans don't appreciate a guy who is quietly effective everywhere as much as they drool over point totals. Hanifin is perfect for Sutter's system and is blossoming before our eyes. Never going to put up big points or be a pp guy but I'd rather a guy like him than someone like Barrie all day long. The objective is to defend first and foremost. You need to have confidence that your top pairing can contain the other teams top guys... consistently. That's a much more difficult task than racking up secondary assists on the pp. He's fast and moves the puck very well... but he seems to see the whole ice now

He makes 4.85m but might be worth 8m realistically. Finally using his physical skills to move the needle every game. I'm so happy I was wrong about him. Looks like Sutter was the tonic he needed to understand how to realize his potential... even if it's not what the scouts thought in 2015

[Yikes]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Username checks out. Wtf are you on?

So what if we can't sign either JG or Tkachuk?

[Knut]

Originally Posted by AT77

Monahan
Dube
Zadorov
Zary
Zavgorodny
Basically any other player whose last name starts with Z
2022 1st
2022 2nd (Flames pick, not Florida's)
2023 1st or 2nd

for

Laine
Domi
Roslovic

Dump Pitlick and Ritche to someone other teams with 3rd-7th round picks as cap dumps. Buyout Lucic and trade Backlund next off season to extend Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Laine, Domi, Mangiapaine, Roslovic, and Kylington. We'll have about $47 mill in cap space which should be good for those signings.

For this playoff run:

Gaudreau - Lindholm - Laine
Tkachuk - Domi - Roslovic
Mangiapaine - Backlund - Coleman
Richardson - Ruzicka - Lewis

Call up Valimaki, give some playing time to Pelletier and Phillips.

lesss gooooo

That might be the worst trade proposal i have ever seen.. Give up a ton of assets and make the team actually worse.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by Yikes

So what if we can't sign either JG or Tkachuk?

Well Chucky has to sign for at least one season unless he doesn't want to play.
But assuming we can't sign Johnny, and Chucky only signs a one year deal, then we sell off Chucky, Lindholm, etc...next season and hope for Beddard.