02-08-2022, 04:25 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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LeBrun: Flames to add secondary scoring. Friedman: A lot of people think Toffoli
https://www.tsn.ca/video/~2377941
per LeBrun, if Treliving is going to make a trade it will most likely be to address secondary scoring
Treliving thinks some of the secondary scoring could come from with in (e.g. Coleman)
LeBrun thinks Montreal and Ottawa could be natural trade partners for the Flames
Also thinks that since the top playoff contenders are focused on d-men it could give a bit of an edge for the Flames shopping the forward market
he also said that he was going to expand on this in his Wednesday article for the Athletic
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02-08-2022, 04:27 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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the center position is where the most improvement is needed. A rhs centre like Pageau would be nic
edit: but not Pageau specifically, his salary is blegh
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02-08-2022, 04:53 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Man, when I watched Dillon Dube against Winnipeg and to some degree Dallas in 2020 I was so pumped. He was the guy I could see slotting into the middle 6 and being a solid secondary scorer. Not to late, but like so many prospects it feels like he’s going the wrong direction. Still love the guy. But damn.
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02-08-2022, 04:55 PM
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#4
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First round-bust
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02-08-2022, 04:56 PM
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I'll believe it when I see it.
Hoping for Toffoli, bracing for Chariot.
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02-08-2022, 04:59 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Owen15
Man, when I watched Dillon Dube against Winnipeg and to some degree Dallas in 2020 I was so pumped. He was the guy I could see slotting into the middle 6 and being a solid secondary scorer. Not to late, but like so many prospects it feels like he’s going the wrong direction. Still love the guy. But damn.
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Not that it's an excuse but hasn't Dube had Covid multiple times. Could be hampering him a bit because of that.
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02-08-2022, 05:01 PM
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Does Mangiapane have a significantly less talented brother?
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02-08-2022, 05:04 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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I maintain that Dube has just gotten too comfortable and has lost the competitive edge as a result. Someone pushing for his spot could light a fire under him.
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02-08-2022, 05:06 PM
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#9
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djsFlames
I'll believe it when I see it.
Hoping for Toffoli, bracing for Chariot.
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If the Flames are looking for secondary scoring why would they go after Chariot?
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02-08-2022, 05:09 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
If the Flames are looking for secondary scoring why would they go after Chariot?
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Because Forbort, Gus, Fantenberg
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02-08-2022, 05:12 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theslymonkey
Because Forbort, Gus, Fantenberg
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The rumored price for Chiarot is much different than the rest though.
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02-08-2022, 05:13 PM
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Franchise Player
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I’m hopeful that we finally solve the secondary scoring dilemma. Tre has usually traded for term, but this year could possibly be different with so many critical RFAs/UFAs needing new contracts.
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02-08-2022, 05:14 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
If the Flames are looking for secondary scoring why would they go after Chariot?
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Because Brad Treliving.
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02-08-2022, 05:17 PM
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First Line Centre
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Location: Calgary
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Whenever I see Dube with the puck, I get a little sad. I know he’s going to try and pivot along the boards with it and then lose it to an opposing player.
It also feels like all his decisions are about 2 seconds too slow. I had such high hopes for him. Im hoping he’ll turn it around. Maybe he’s thinking too much or something.
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02-08-2022, 05:17 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
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If the Flames decide to trade for an expensive center I can see this happening.
When LeBrun mentioned Montreal and Ottawa, I think of Toffoli and C. Brown.
I think the Flames do one of the following:
- Trade for an expensive center (Miller, Hertl, Giroux, Pavelski) + call up Stockton winger (Pelletier, Phillips)
- Trade for two, less-pricier middle 6 players (Toffoli, Brown, Jarnkrok, etc.)
Sutter has talked quite a bit about how he needs more out of his centers behind Lindholm, so I'm guessing he prefers the first option. Trade lists and NMCs are going to be a big road block though.
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02-08-2022, 05:17 PM
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Backup Goalie
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I've said it before, Toffoli and Brown added to this lineup would be lights out. Pitlick and Dube could go the other way for cap purposes with picks/prospects.
Johnny - Lindholm - Tkachuk
Mangi - Backlund - Toffoli
Coleman - Monahan - Brown
Absolutely love that top 9.
I think one of those will be the Flames targets.
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02-08-2022, 05:22 PM
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Franchise Player
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I'm still hoping Scheifele gets run out of Winnipeg
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02-08-2022, 05:22 PM
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Draft Pick
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Location: Calgary
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Looking at Ottawa and Montreal I would be thinking:
Lekhonen (RFA): fresh off the finals last year, cheap contract- likely bigger ask due to RFA status probably looking for Dube swap or heftier picks/prospects
Paul (UFA): big body, cheap contract, having a career year, seems like a guy who could score some big goals in the playoffs
Sanford (UFA): big body, cheap contract, played a big role in the 2019 cup final with STL
I would go for Sanford/Paul. Ottawa plays a similar system to us and I'm sure either would integrate well into Darryls system. Plus theyre both bigger bodies and that would help beef up a third line with Monahan and Dube on it.
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02-08-2022, 05:24 PM
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There will be a piece on this in the Athletic tomorrow so hopefully more nuggets of information.
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02-08-2022, 05:29 PM
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Backlund22
Looking at Ottawa and Montreal I would be thinking:
Lekhonen (RFA): fresh off the finals last year, cheap contract- likely bigger ask due to RFA status probably looking for Dube swap or heftier picks/prospects
Paul (UFA): big body, cheap contract, having a career year, seems like a guy who could score some big goals in the playoffs
Sanford (UFA): big body, cheap contract, played a big role in the 2019 cup final with STL
I would go for Sanford/Paul. Ottawa plays a similar system to us and I'm sure either would integrate well into Darryls system. Plus theyre both bigger bodies and that would help beef up a third line with Monahan and Dube on it.
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I really like both Paul and Sanford, but I would think the Flames want to add scoring to their RW position. Both are LHS LW.
I think removing Ritchie with a top 6 RHS scoring winger would do wonders for this group.
Either way, would be disappointed with those guys for depth.
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