The Legend of Sam Bennett

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Being an outright bad hockey team would actually be more productive than being an utterly mediocre bubble team yet again.

They are 14th overall in point %.

Maybe check back at the end of the season. Doesn’t really matter now.

[AC]

Bennett hatty!

[AustinL_NHL]

Completes the hat-trick :')

[Saqe]

Hat trick

[SuperMatt18]

Sam had shown flashes in his 6 years here, and failed for a variety of reasons.

Playing him on the wing, the own pressure he put on himself as the highest pick in Flames history, trying to make him a grinder instead of an open ice skilled player, really just bad coaching in general TBH.

But really the fact is during the 19-20 season there were some metrics (Evolving Hockey’s GAR) that had him as the worst forward on the flames roster that season.

And even in the 20-21 season he showed some flashes when Sutter became coach but he didn’t really have a great start to that season either. Big part of that was coaching again when Ward asked him if he wanted to play Center & then saddled him on the 4th line instead of playing with Dube and Lucic.

But in the end he asked for a trade, probably wouldn’t have been protected in the expansion draft, and Treliving got two 2nd round pick equivalents in return.

It sucks he never worked in Calgary and the 6 years of them mismanaging him irritates me, but I don’t get irritated by the trade. It was the right move to make at that time based on what Sam had shown as a Calgary Flame, based on his trade demand, and based on the looming expansion draft.

I’m happy for him in Florida, always was a booster and fan of the guy. Really wish they would have made Tkachuk-Bennett-Versteeg a thing during Tkachuks rookie year.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Pfft, couldn't even get the natural.

[Flamesfan05]

Sam Bennett is only good enough to be a bottom 6 wing on the deep Calgary team. Amirite?

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Sam had shown flashes in his 6 years here, and failed for a variety of reasons.

Playing him on the wing, the own pressure he put on himself as the highest pick in Flames history, trying to make him a grinder instead of an open ice skilled player, really just bad coaching in general TBH.

But really the fact is during the 19-20 season there were some metrics (Evolving Hockey’s GAR) that had him as the worst forward on the flames roster that season.

And even in the 20-21 season he showed some flashes when Sutter became coach but he didn’t really have a great start to that season either. Big part of that was coaching again when Ward asked him if he wanted to play Center & then saddled him on the 4th line instead of playing with Dube and Lucic.

But in the end he asked for a trade, probably wouldn’t have been protected in the expansion draft, and Treliving got two 2nd round pick equivalents in return.

It sucks he never worked in Calgary and the 6 years of them mismanaging him irritates me, but I don’t get irritated by the trade, it was the right move to make at that time based on what Sam had shown as a Calgary Flame, based on his trade demand, and based on the looming expansion draft.

I don't think the trade was bad at the time considering the circumstances but I don't agree with saying that it would've never worked in Calgary. It was horrible mismanagement for years that lead to it not working here in the end, I think it absolutely would've worked if Tre hadn't brought in one dunce after another, year after year.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Saqe

I don't think the trade was bad at the time considering the circumstances but I don't agree with saying that it would've never worked in Calgary. It was horrible mismanagement for years that lead to it not working here in the end, I think it absolutely would've worked if Tre hadn't brought in one dunce after another, year after year.

He probably works under Sutter but I’m not sure what you do once he’s already publicly asked for a trade at that point and is expansion eligible.

I mean more it never would have worked here just because unfortunately the fuse had already been lit for him to be traded by the time we got a competent coach in here.

[FBI]

Duclair is looking pretty awesome too!

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Saqe

I don't think the trade was bad at the time considering the circumstances but I don't agree with saying that it would've never worked in Calgary. It was horrible mismanagement for years that lead to it not working here in the end, I think it absolutely would've worked if Tre hadn't brought in one dunce after another, year after year.

Sam Bennett was arguably their best player in the playoffs. The next year they told him Derek Ryan beat him out for the center job even before the season started.

What would you do if you are Bennett?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Sam Bennett was arguably their best player in the playoffs. The next year they told him Derek Ryan beat him out for the center job even before the season started.

What would you do if you are Bennett?

Yep..

He wasn’t arguably their best player either. He was their best player in those playoffs.

He then missed training camp, and was then placed on the 4th line by the absolute asshat of a Head Coach.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

He probably works under Sutter but I’m not sure what you do once he’s already publicly asked for a trade at that point and is expansion eligible.

I mean more it never would have worked here just because unfortunately the fuse had already been lit for him to be traded by the time we got a competent coach in here.

Yup. The decision to extend Ward instead of hiring Darryl immediately after that debacle vs the Stars is a decision that will haunt this team for years to come.

[dissentowner]

It was Gilbert/Savard all over again.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

It was Gilbert/Savard all over again.

Shhh! Don't make that comparison or the board will quickly remind you of how ridiculous you're being.

[dammage79]

Bennett had to leave. How things went down in CGY made it an unavoidable circumstance. Doesn't stop me from being downright livid that a player like that got away from the team I cheer for because they mucked it up. Oh make no mistake, they mucked it.

Dang it. Makes me so bummed it didn't work out for him here.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

He's on pace for 30 goals.

Just had to throw that in there because people said they would give it some time this year before admitting that he's actually made something of himself in Florida. I think enough time has passed.

Yeah, just add it to the pile on an already pretty long list of Flames’ management screwups. What a severe misstep by keeping Sean Monahan instead of Sam Bennett. Removing a player who ups his game in the playoffs vs a guy who struggles in the playoffs.

Now this organization is saddled with no depth in their lineup, extremely limited cap space and a $6.3M contract they’ll likely have to buy out this offseason. The talent evaluation from Treliving and co. is a complete joke.

[Locke]

Oh Sammy...this is just going to be another one of those moments in Flames' history.

Does he have a significantly less talented brother we could sign?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Maybe check back at the end of the season. Doesn’t really matter now.

It's also irrelevant...they are 2nd in the division in points percentage. 2nd in the Pacific would be an ideal playoff spot.

Look at the 2/3 matchups in other divisions

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Yeah, just add it to the pile on an already pretty long list of Flames’ management screwups. What a severe misstep by keeping Sean Monahan instead of Sam Bennett. Removing a player who ups his game in the playoffs vs a guy who struggles in the playoffs.

Now this organization is saddled with no depth in their lineup, extremely limited cap space and a $6.3M contract they’ll likely have to buy out this offseason. The talent evaluation from Treliving and co. is a complete joke.

I don’t think that was an either/or situation (keep Bennett instead of Monahan). They’re unrelated. Plus Monahan hasn’t really been the problem in the POs you make him out to be, not compared to a whole lot of other players.