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Old 12-29-2021, 04:22 PM   #121
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They cancelled all IIHF events in January with the exception of the U21 Mens A Group (ie World Juniors). Three women's events and two mens events I believe. But the optics were horrible I agree, cancelling these other events (two years in a row now for the female U18) but somehow finding a way to reschedule the mends U18 last year. To reschedule this event and not the others sends a very poor message.



At least 4 football bowl games cancelled outright, including the Holiday Bowl last night which was cancelled on a few hours notice. This thing is affecting more than just hockey. However the international teams and players in hockey (IIHF and also NHL) certainly complicate rule making and decision making for hockey's governing bodies. NHL for example is having a much more difficult time adapting than the NFL due to border issues that other leagues do not need to take into consideration.

I worded my original post poorly. My point was that if the IIHF continued this event despite numerous positive Covid tests it would completely contradict their statement made this week outlining the concern for safety of players/personnel as reasoning for cancelled events in coming months instead of the revenue “men vs women” side of the conversation they were battling and being criticized for.

I guess we’ll see what they say at the presser concerning rescheduling this event versus others.
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Old 12-29-2021, 04:25 PM   #122
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You knew the tournament wasn’t going to go ahead months ago before anyone even knew what omicron was?

Because that’s how long ago people would have had to have known if it was going to be played in a bubble.


You knew nothing until the nhl omicron breakout and even then, you didn’t know for sure how it would affect the world juniors until about a week ago when the teams were already in Canada and by then it was too late.
Yes, thats all valid. But it was about 2 and a half weeks ago when NHL games were being postponed and I think we all knew it. Its all moot at this point and too bad, we were all looking forward to the wjc.

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I know off-topic, but has anyone made a GDT for the flames game today?
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Old 12-29-2021, 04:28 PM   #124
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Redact - I’m a day ahead. Lol
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Old 12-29-2021, 04:28 PM   #125
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I know off-topic, but has anyone made a GDT for the flames game today?
They don't play until tomorrow
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Old 12-29-2021, 04:33 PM   #126
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You mean who doesn't??
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Redact - I’m a day ahead. Lol

We’re in that week of the year where no one knows what day it is..
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There is money involved so they don't want a bubble. Leading up the tournament Omnicron wasn't a thing and it looked like the NHL etc seasons were working.

It came on fast and hard, and they had Alberta change the rules on them a week before the tournament started.

People can always make better decisions, but pretty much any organization/leader is desperately trying to find a line between 100% economics and 100% health and they are bound to not get it right.

Just so tired of the know it alls with hindsight.
It’s not hindsight if a great many people anticipated a huge Omicron surge over a month ago.

Omicron was already rampant in Europe in mid-November. At every stage of the pandemic, surges in Europe have been followed by surges in Canada 3-4 weeks later. Every time.

I don’t understand how this is a surprise to so many Canadians. It’s maybe understandable in the general public, whose internet seems to stop at the mid-Atlantic. But it’s inexcusable for authorities and planners. They have a window into Covid future just by checking into what’s happening in Germany, the UK, and the Netherlands. What they do with that information is a matter of judgement and balancing tradeoffs. But nobody in Canada who has been paying the least attention to Covid globally should have been surprised by Omicron.
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Apparently a few officials tested positive too. Still seems like an overreaction. Especially if there were no symptoms.
I read somewhere it was five officials, can’t play if there’s no officials
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This presser leaves a lot to be desired
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Old 12-29-2021, 04:46 PM   #132
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I read somewhere it was five officials, can’t play if there’s no officials
Plus even if someone is positive with no symptoms, whoever they spread it to might not be so lucky.
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Plus even if someone is positive with no symptoms, whoever they spread it to might not be so lucky.
Well they already have it and are isolated does cancelling the tournament make it safer?
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Well they already have it and are isolated does cancelling the tournament make it safer?
There was another post in the thread saying to stop testing asymptomatic individuals, but this is why having the testing protocols in place is important.
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Red Deerians. Had to look up the demonym. Not as good as Hatter or Lethbian.
This one had me dying. Couldn't help but read it as someone with a lisp trying to say a different word
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It’s not hindsight if a great many people anticipated a huge Omicron surge over a month ago.

Omicron was already rampant in Europe in mid-November. At every stage of the pandemic, surges in Europe have been followed by surges in Canada 3-4 weeks later. Every time.

I don’t understand how this is a surprise to so many Canadians. It’s maybe understandable in the general public, whose internet seems to stop at the mid-Atlantic. But it’s inexcusable for authorities and planners. They have a window into Covid future just by checking into what’s happening in Germany, the UK, and the Netherlands. What they do with that information is a matter of judgement and balancing tradeoffs. But nobody in Canada who has been paying the least attention to Covid globally should have been surprised by Omicron.
A 5th wave is not the same as Omicron.

No one knew omicron was going to spread this quickly until it was too late.
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A winter Wednesday wedding in Red Deer. There must be some huge cost savings.
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They are all going to die!! or not.

Lets stop the world again. It worked last time and the time before that and the time before that.. or not.
Emphasis on not.

Time to evaluate risk tolerance is coming??
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Letting the virus run wild could allow it to mutate into one that is as infectious as omicron but with significant more lethality and vaccine resistance. Then every old person in Florida will no longer be living life.
Hopefully you don’t actually believe that.
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