I need a new TV series to get into (old or new) v2

[PsYcNeT]

Yellowjackets is pretty fun so far. Great cast.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

I've enjoyed parts of Yellowstone, but this year has been pretty bad so far. So much time has been spent on Jimmy and the fancy horse guy to set up a spin off that I can't imagine anyone wants to see.

Yup, I agree.

I do think Yellowstone is doing an okay job at exploring a big part of American history that doesn't get enough coverage.

The 1800s, early 1900s era is fascinating. And how that plays into modern America is very interesting.

I think people with a connection that that way of life will find the show a lot more interesting, and people who want to learn about it will be the same, but for most outside of the scenery its nothing more than a soap opera.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

I think a lot of people watched the first few episodes like I did then never went back. The characters are all terrible people, so there's no one to root for or get attached to. I tried to get into it but I found it very boring watching ultra rich people be #######s to each other

I am trying to keep up with the show, but at some point this storyline is becoming boring because of exactly what you said.

They are literally just being #######s to each other. Even the writing is getting dumb to me because it is all about 'dunking' on each other now.

To me there is little character progression. 4 seasons in and everyone is still the same person they were in season 1.

The show is interesting, it has amazing episodes, but seriously, why is it so hard to develop one of the characters beyond just being a ######bag.

Every episode has become 1 ######bag talking to another ######bag trying to claim the family throne.

[Coys1882]

Yellowstone is ok.

It's Sons of Anarchy on horses and if you don't take it too seriously, you can have some fun with it. The cowboy bravado, only way of life stuff is pretty over the top, but the spinning horses are hilarious.

[EldrickOnIce]

Just binges both seasons of the true crime dramatization 'Dirty John' on Netflix. Each season tells a different story.
I can recommend

[AltaGuy]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Just binges both seasons of the true crime dramatization 'Dirty John' on Netflix. Each season tells a different story.
I can recommend

The gf and I enjoyed both seasons. Second that rec.

[Stud_McCool]

All caught up on both Succession and Yellowstone. Both shows air Sunday nights.

I will always watch Succession first.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

I think a lot of people watched the first few episodes like I did then never went back. The characters are all terrible people, so there's no one to root for or get attached to. I tried to get into it but I found it very boring watching ultra rich people be #######s to each other

I bounced off Succession a couple times until I realized it’s a black comedy. But yeah, the audience for that type of show is never going to be mainstream. Succession is one of those shows (like Madmen and Veep) that all the culture mavens watch, but whose popularity never comes close matching its critical acclaim.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I bounced off Succession a couple times until I realized it’s a black comedy. But yeah, the audience for that type of show is never going to be mainstream. Succession is one of those shows (like Madmen and Veep) that all the culture mavens watch, but whose popularity never comes close matching its critical acclaim.

Mad Men is a good comparison. Different show obviously and not for everyone, but for me it's still the very best. Some shows just strike a chord with certain people.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Mad Men is a good comparison. Different show obviously and not for everyone, but for me it's still the very best. Some shows just strike a chord with certain people.

I’m trying to hold off for another year or two before I do a Madmen rewatch. It’s one of the few shows that I watched every episode of on the day it aired.

[you&me]

I was instantly hooked on Succession, but my wife just wasn't into it, so I ended up watching it by myself. It's the only show we never watched together.

As season 4 started, she decided to give it another shot, so now we've been watching it together from the beginning (currently about halfway through season 2), while I still catch the latest episodes. Some days I'll watch 3 episodes from 2 seasons... And love all of it.

What I've noticed, after over a decade of watching everything else together, is how much we both LOL and crack up. It's ####ing hilarious and anyone that takes it too seriously is missing most of the fun.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by you&me

I was instantly hooked on Succession, but my wife just wasn't into it, so I ended up watching it by myself. It's the only show we never watched together.

As season 4 started, she decided to give it another shot, so now we've been watching it together from the beginning (currently about halfway through season 2), while I still catch the latest episodes. Some days I'll watch 3 episodes from 2 seasons... And love all of it.

What I've noticed, after over a decade of watching everything else together, is how much we both LOL and crack up. It's ####ing hilarious and anyone that takes it too seriously is missing most of the fun.

The writing is sharp. I thought the same thing about White Lotus. Dark and serious issues but the writing and acting brought such a joy to the game

[Wormius]

Am I behind or something? There are only 3 seasons of Succession.

[you&me]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Am I behind or something? There are only 3 seasons of Succession.

Sorry, brain fart... wires crossed with Yellowstone, which is on season 4. You're right, Succession is currently on season 3.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by you&me

Sorry, brain fart... wires crossed with Yellowstone, which is on season 4. You're right, Succession is currently on season 3.

That’s okay. I think somebody else also referenced a season 4 and gave me pause to check imdb to make sure I wasn’t delirious.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Mad Men is a good comparison. Different show obviously and not for everyone, but for me it's still the very best. Some shows just strike a chord with certain people.

I’m basing this on no facts because I’m lazy but I’d guess Mad Men was waaaaay more popular than succession.

Both in ratings and in the cultural consciousness. Even people who didn’t watch knew Don Draper. Plus it had a big effect on culture and style outside of tv.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I’m basing this on no facts because I’m lazy but I’d guess Mad Men was waaaaay more popular than succession.

Both in ratings and in the cultural consciousness. Even people who didn’t watch knew Don Draper. Plus it had a big effect on culture and style outside of tv.

I dont't think so. They appear to be pretty similar. But yes, Madmen had far more of a cultural presence; although when it reached mainstream i dont know (i.e. what season). Some of that would be that Don Draper became the one of the main pillars of the anti-protagonist. Also, yes, the sets and the style certainly helped as well.

Succesion certainly lacks the style of Madmen, and purposefully or not there isn't a lead like Jon Hamm playing DD. I also think Madmen became a celebration of the style and glam of the upper-class white 60's. It would be tough in this political/economic climate to start celebrating Succession in the same way.

Interesting article on the matter:

https://money.cnn.com/2015/04/03/med...ngs/index.html

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Cappy

I dont't think so. They appear to be pretty similar. But yes, Madmen had far more of a cultural presence; although when it reached mainstream i dont know (i.e. what season). Some of that would be that Don Draper became the one of the main pillars of the anti-protagonist. Also, yes, the sets and the style certainly helped as well.

Succesion certainly lacks the style of Madmen, and purposefully or not there isn't a lead like Jon Hamm playing DD. I also think Madmen became a celebration of the style and glam of the upper-class white 60's. It would be tough in this political/economic climate to start celebrating Succession in the same way.

Interesting article on the matter:

https://money.cnn.com/2015/04/03/med...ngs/index.html

No they’re not even close to similar.

Mad Men averaged over 2 million viewers for every episode from S4 onwards and only S1 averaged less than a million. S2 and S3 were in between.

Succession have never had 1 million viewers for a single episode, ever. It is currently averaging less than 600k viewers per episode. And ratings are going down. They have multiple episodes with less than 500k viewers.

Even if we only compared season 1-3, mad men is crushing succession in viewers.

So no, the shows are not remotely comparable when it comes to being a critical darling that didn’t get viewers. Mad Men was superior critically, culturally and in terms of viewers.

Even just to say their ratings won’t match their critical acclaim isn’t really accurate. Mad Men was a ratings smash, not to mention cultural phenomenon, compared to succession.

Now HBO would say they don’t care about ratings in that way but that’s besides the point.

[getbak]

Do those numbers account for streaming?

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I already did way more work than I wanted to. Don’t make me go down that rabbit hole.