11-11-2021, 11:26 AM
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#41
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calumniate
Toronto hates backup goalies, so I support Markstrom starting tonight :d
Rittich pwned the leafs when he played for us
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They got beaten by a Zamboni driver.
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11-11-2021, 11:29 AM
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#42
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calumniate
Toronto hates backup goalies, so I support Markstrom starting tonight :d
Rittich pwned the leafs when he played for us
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He also owned the leafs when he played for them.
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11-11-2021, 11:30 AM
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#43
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Rapid fire one liners boom! Good stuff!!
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11-11-2021, 11:33 AM
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#44
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Originally Posted by Inferno
It's easy to say he should have put his paddle down watching a replay.
Breakaways are 50/50 for a goalie and even harder when someone shoots that close.
On the second one he was going to bat the puck away with his blocker towards the neutral zone but then the deflection happened and his momentum pulled him away and he was unable to get back in time. Sure, had he not tried to do that he might have been able to stop it but there's no guarantee it doesn't sneak through anyway.
Again, it's easy to say he should have did something different on a replay but in real-time it's not so easy to read deflections. In the end it shouldn't have mattered because the team's response should have been a lot better than it was.
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I agree, especially on the deflection
Let’s talk about not just reading, but physically responding to deflections
Average human reaction time to visual stimulus is 250 ms, and 200 ms, or 0.2 seconds, is very good. Let’s say NHL goalies are closer to 200
Let’s say a decent shot speed is 80 miles per hour, or 117 feet per second
Multiplying those together, you get 0.2 x 117 = 23.4
A deflected puck will move over 23 feet before a goalie begins to physically respond to it
The faceoff dot is 30 feet from the Center of the net, and a goalie is typically about 4 feet out.
So long story short, when a player is in tight and a goalie expects a deflection, you can try to position yourself to account for it
But those deflections that happen 25-30 feet out that look brutal, where the goalie appears to misread it and flail at it too late? They really aren’t. It’s science.
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11-11-2021, 12:09 PM
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#45
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Franchise Player
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Really happy to see monahan get between some more skilled wingers. He's definitely been working hard, but his puck handling just isn't a forte. Hopefully he finds more slot opportunities, playing with more offensive guys.
Habs suck. Go flames!
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11-11-2021, 12:16 PM
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#46
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Norm!
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I believe in the Flames so much right now that I took them in a parlay bet with them and the Kings winning tonight. Come on Flames, Captain needs a new pair of shoes.
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11-11-2021, 12:19 PM
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#47
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
I believe in the Flames so much right now that I took them in a parlay bet with them and the Kings winning tonight. Come on Flames, Captain needs a new pair of shoes.
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Can I recommend the new balance 880’s?? Incredible pair of shoes!
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11-11-2021, 12:24 PM
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#48
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GOAT!
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Originally Posted by Bingo
From listening to Treliving the other day I almost thought he let it slip that Monahan was still recovering from surgery and that the lessened even strength responsibilities was the final phase of his recovery.
Maybe that's done.
For sure I'm reading a lot into a comment, but it sounded like he almost gave that away but then backed it off.
Anyway, if that's the case this was always the plan and Monahan didn't have a whole lot to whine about.
These lines provide decent balance and get Mangiapane and Monahan a bigger role which I think is huge for scoring depth.
And Dube / Backlund on a third line is no slouch either.
Pitlick to the fourth gives Lucic someone to play with.
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I wish there was a replay somewhere, but I swear Bell and/or Hrudey were talking about Monahan's recovery during the last broadcast -- and they were saying with the type of surgery he had, he isn't really expected to be back to normal for another couple months still.
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11-11-2021, 12:25 PM
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#49
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inferno
It's easy to say he should have put his paddle down watching a replay.
Breakaways are 50/50 for a goalie and even harder when someone shoots that close.
On the second one he was going to bat the puck away with his blocker towards the neutral zone but then the deflection happened and his momentum pulled him away and he was unable to get back in time. Sure, had he not tried to do that he might have been able to stop it but there's no guarantee it doesn't sneak through anyway.
Again, it's easy to say he should have did something different on a replay but in real-time it's not so easy to read deflections. In the end it shouldn't have mattered because the team's response should have been a lot better than it was.
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True, I can certainly understand that, I like this take on it. At game speed it's not always an easy read, and the team could have responded better and capitalized on their chances.
I feel like the slow motion replays make it look worse for sure...
Last edited by Stanley; 11-11-2021 at 12:29 PM.
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11-11-2021, 12:48 PM
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#50
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Lifetime Suspension
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What secrets does Zadorov know. He is awful and shouldn't be dressing ahead of Valimaki.
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11-11-2021, 01:06 PM
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#51
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by tvp2003
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I like it!
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11-11-2021, 01:08 PM
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#52
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First Line Centre
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Line changes look pretty good. I was getting bored of them winning the same way anyway.
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11-11-2021, 01:11 PM
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#53
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Calgary
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Marky gets the start again?
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11-11-2021, 01:16 PM
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#54
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightslayer
What secrets does Zadorov know. He is awful and shouldn't be dressing ahead of Valimaki.
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Think that's a bit harsh.
Zadorov has recovered pretty nicely actually.
He's 2nd for defensemen in CF% and 2nd for xGF%. For a shut down guy that's just money.
He's first in xGA/60.
His last four games have featured xGF% of 79%/60%/73% and 68%
That's exceeding my expectations to be honest, and by a fair margin.
Valimaki is 7th (of 8 ahead of Stone) in all those categories.
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11-11-2021, 01:17 PM
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#55
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
Think that's a bit harsh.
Zadorov has recovered pretty nicely actually.
He's 2nd for defensemen in CF% and 2nd for xGF%. For a shut down guy that's just money.
He's first in xGA/60.
His last four games have featured xGF% of 79%/60%/73% and 68%
That's exceeding my expectations to be honest, and by a fair margin.
Valimaki is 7th (of 8 ahead of Stone) in all those categories.
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Well you've changed my mind. Didn't realize his advanced stats were that good.
Guess it's the (young) Brodie effect. Mistakes are glaring but otherwise a solid game.
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11-11-2021, 01:20 PM
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#56
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightslayer
Well you've changed my mind. Didn't realize his advanced stats were that good.
Guess it's the (young) Brodie effect. Mistakes are glaring but otherwise a solid game.
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All good.
He's never going to wow anyone with the puck or offensively. So really if you don't notice him at all it's a good thing.
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11-11-2021, 01:36 PM
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#57
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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In general, the whole team smelled like dog buns last game, but Monahan has looked pretty good in the last half of the games this season. I am not saying he didn't earn the promotion, but part of me wonders since the team is going on an eastern road trip, if they might be show casing him.
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11-11-2021, 01:42 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
I like it!
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Yeah with the exception of Vailmaki out, I'd say you're looking at the typical fan's dream lineup and combinations. Now let's see if the fans know what they're talking about.
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11-11-2021, 02:00 PM
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#60
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
They got beaten by a Zamboni driver.
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Never gets old.
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