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Monahammer · 11-03-2021, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

I’ve long maintained that this is a bigger problem than “game management”. Refs get caught up in the game. Teams are pressuring or trying to come back - they just feel like a penalty must be coming and find one. And in OT - they get looking at the puck and not stuff like the play last night.

Of course they do! We do as fans and we're not on the ice. It is human nature. Even if they are trying actively not to get swept up in it they must be.

Too often games that have a chance at comeback stop getting called tight: a team gets desperate to claw back, starts getting more sloppy with infractions, but less gets called against them because everyone is sort of swept up in the tilt of their effort to get even. It shouldnt be that way. The game should be called the same all the way through. One is potentially more exciting and perhaps that is why it happens, but it is bull#### and against the spirit of sport.

GioforPM · 11-03-2021, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Monahammer

Of course they do! We do as fans and we're not on the ice. It is human nature. Even if they are trying actively not to get swept up in it they must be.

What I mean is, there’s probably a lot more of that than some master “let’s keep the game close” decision making.

GirlySports · 11-03-2021, 09:51 AM

Should Kylington start overtime instead of Andersson? 3-on-3 seems perfect for him.

GioforPM · 11-03-2021, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GirlySports

Should Kylington start overtime instead of Andersson? 3-on-3 seems perfect for him.

The bigger problem was that Lindy lost the opening draw and that line got wasted circling their own zone for most of their shift.

Johnny Makarov · 11-03-2021, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GirlySports

Should Kylington start overtime instead of Andersson? 3-on-3 seems perfect for him.

Kylington should get PP1 time over Andersson. So yes.

bomber317 · 11-03-2021, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

The bigger problem was that Lindy lost the opening draw and that line got wasted circling their own zone for most of their shift.

I remember a few seasons back, he would throw out his defensive line out to start OT.

Win the draw, stall, and change to their Gaudreau / Mony / Brodie line and hope to catch the other team in transition.
Lose the draw, attempt to get the puck back, and change over if they did get the puck back.

but a lot of OT strategy has changed since then.

Calgary4LIfe · 11-03-2021, 10:03 AM

I miss the 3on3 originally with Gaudreau-Monahan-Giordano many seasons ago. That combo was perfect back then.

Johnny Makarov · 11-03-2021, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I miss the 3on3 originally with Gaudreau-Monahan-Giordano many seasons ago. That combo was perfect back then.

Gio didn't do much. It was Brodie.

Calgary4LIfe · 11-03-2021, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Gio didn't do much. It was Brodie.

Your irrational hate makes you remember things differently.

But yes, I also really loved Brodie in 3on3, but Giordano was the one that would score.

Johnny Makarov · 11-03-2021, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Your irrational hate makes you remember things differently.

But yes, I also really loved Brodie in 3on3, but Giordano was the one that would score.

He had 2 OT goals in 2017-1018 and ZERO since..

Racki · 11-03-2021, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Your irrational hate makes you remember things differently.

But yes, I also really loved Brodie in 3on3, but Giordano was the one that would score.

This is why I want to see Kylington in 3 on 3. Let's be honest, overtime isn't about playing perfect defense. It has a ton do with skating. Having a guy that is quick in transition can make all the difference.

Lanny_McDonald · 11-03-2021, 10:23 AM

The Flames have become very passive in their 3-on-3 play. They used to just take it to the other team and attack, attack, attack. They killed on the odd man rushes. They don't do that with any consistency any more. They are more puck control focused. They had a 3-on-1 in OT last night and quickly turned it into a 3-on-3 possession shift where they ended up generating nothing. They need to get back to playing aggressive in OT.

Ziggy Lidstrom · 11-03-2021, 10:28 AM

What a brutal way to end. Shoes on the other foot and the zebras call that against the flames.

At least they got a point out of it.

They did look like the better team throughout.

Sorros has our number. We keep playing like that and not for long mind you.

ComixZone · 11-03-2021, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

The Flames have become very passive in their 3-on-3 play. They used to just take it to the other team and attack, attack, attack. They killed on the odd man rushes. They don't do that with any consistency any more. They are more puck control focused. They had a 3-on-1 in OT last night and quickly turned it into a 3-on-3 possession shift where they ended up generating nothing. They need to get back to playing aggressive in OT.

I think at least part of this is to do with Backlund, Hanifin and Andersson being near the top of the OT rotation. None of them are overly aggressive/push the pace. When we were at our peak in OT, it was usually because Brodie or Giordano were heavily involved in pushing the pace and attacking alongside Johnny/Sean. I wouldn't mind seeing Kylington moved up the rotation and get him out there during that time as his speed is an absolute weapon with that much open ice.

Shazam · 11-03-2021, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

I’ve long maintained that this is a bigger problem than “game management”. Refs get caught up in the game. Teams are pressuring or trying to come back - they just feel like a penalty must be coming and find one. And in OT - they get looking at the puck and not stuff like the play last night.

Think of it as "game mis-management".

CSharp · 11-03-2021, 10:35 AM

I have to say that last night's game against the Preds was pretty awesome, especially the first period. It sucks that the Flames lost due to a non-call in OT. Flames could've been up 5 or 6 goals in the first period alone if they had capitalized on the odd man rushes and breakaways. Gaudreau is definitely playing for his next contract. He's been amazing to the start of this season.

GioforPM · 11-03-2021, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Your irrational hate makes you remember things differently.

But yes, I also really loved Brodie in 3on3, but Giordano was the one that would score.

Moreover, the starting trio was always JG, SM and MG.

activeStick · 11-03-2021, 10:43 AM

I re-watched the first period for fun this morning. I don't recall anytime I've been a fan (and I've been a fan for 35+ years) a period that dominant, and in particular, a first period by the Flames. 3 breakways in succession? Complete, utter, domination in all zones. It was pretty ridiculous to be honest.

blankall · 11-03-2021, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by activeStick

I re-watched the first period for fun this morning. I don't recall anytime I've been a fan (and I've been a fan for 35+ years) a period that dominant, and in particular, a first period by the Flames. 3 breakways in succession? Complete, utter, domination in all zones. It was pretty ridiculous to be honest.

It really was great play. It seemed like all night pucks were bouncing awkwardly off Tkachuk and Lindholm's sticks. Both missed multiple chances that would usually be gimmees for them. The score could have easily been 6-0 after the 1st if the Flames had better luck.

JurassicTunga12 · 11-03-2021, 11:22 AM

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