2021/2022 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by ---Hatrick---

If they get Eichel, I think Gaudreau and Tkachuk’s desire of re-signing increases. Probably wouldn’t be able to keep both but it would make for a fun playoffs

It wouldn't surprise me to see Gaudreau sign almost immediately after an Eichel acquisition. There is good reason to think this is what has caused the holdup on his extension from the start.

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[---Hatrick---]

Originally Posted by Brad Marsh

^^ Also, if you have to factor in losing one of Gaudreau or Tkachuk because of salary constraints next year, then should that be considered in the acquisition cost. So in that case it would be the 4 high-end pieces plus losing one of Gaudreau or Tkachuk?

And if it is, does that change our interest in this potential deal, or do we say to heck with it and we're all in for this year?

I don’t know, but at this point there is a strong feel that Tkachuk and Gaudreau will both atleast test free agency, so I think getting a signed Eichel would help make up for the loss of one or both of them.
However; Eichel is another US born player who happens to be an elite 1C.
I know he is also very tight with Hanafin. This would hopefully entice those other two to re-sign and possibly even take a little bit less than they could potentially fetch on the open market.

It’s all moot and all we can do is speculate, but it’s nice to dream sometimes

[flamesrule_kipper34]

With full respect, have I missed something today?

I saw the Marek note saying the Flames were the closest in on a trade proposal earlier this Summer. I saw a random HF post from earlier this summer and I'm seeing references to Twitter being hot on Flames rumour mill today with Eichel.

Did something actually happen today to support the mania I'm seeing on CP regarding Eichel coming to Calgary, and now, that also being the "potential" holdup in Johnny extension negotiations?

Really hoping I'm missing something because otherwise I'm baffled people have this much faith in Tre, who other than less than a handful, seems allergic to trades.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

It wouldn't surprise me to see Gaudreau sign almost immediately after an Eichel acquisition. There is good reason to think this is what has caused the holdup on his extension from the start.

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Good reason, you say.

Do you think that the facts that he is coming off of a down year, and the fact that he has increased leverage next off season factor in?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by flamesrule_kipper34

With full respect, have I missed something today?

I saw the Marek note saying the Flames were the closest in on a trade proposal earlier this Summer.

That's all it takes. Then. Away. We. GO.

[---Hatrick---]

Originally Posted by flamesrule_kipper34

With full respect, have I missed something today?

I saw the Marek note saying the Flames were the closest in on a trade proposal earlier this Summer. I saw a random HF post from earlier this summer and I'm seeing references to Twitter being hot on Flames rumour mill today with Eichel.

Did something actually happen today to support the mania I'm seeing on CP regarding Eichel coming to Calgary, and now, that also being the "potential" holdup in Johnny extension negotiations?

Really hoping I'm missing something because otherwise I'm baffled people have this much faith in Tre, who other than less than a handful, seems allergic to trades.

Don’t mind us. We are all just getting ahead of ourselves, giddy with excitement just so we can inevitably feel that old familiar feel of disappointment that we’ve come to know all so well

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Brad Marsh

^^ Also, if you have to factor in losing one of Gaudreau or Tkachuk because of salary constraints next year, then should that be considered in the acquisition cost. So in that case it would be the 4 high-end pieces plus losing one of Gaudreau or Tkachuk?

And if it is, does that change our interest in this potential deal, or do we say to heck with it and we're all in for this year?

I think in a realistic ideal world the Flames spend Monahan+futures for Eichel and they also secure a Gaudreau extension. They are able to have a run this year with Gaudreau-Eichel-Tkachuk and then next offseason Tkachuk’s RFA rights are traded to a team he is willing to sign long term. They can recoup some of the lost futures from the Eichel trade

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

It wouldn't surprise me to see Gaudreau sign almost immediately after an Eichel acquisition. There is good reason to think this is what has caused the holdup on his extension from the start.

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I would almost go a little further and say that Treliving shifts his focus to the Gaudreau extension after the Eichel scenario is over. If he gets Eichel done I think he goes all in on extending Johnny. By that I mean he hasn’t really ramped up negotiations with Gaudreau’s camp at all other than expressing interest in doing a long term deal as the focus first is securing Eichel once that scenario ends one way or another the Gaudreau talks will really ramp up

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

I would be happy with Mangihands lol

Gudbrhandson44 it is.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Cozens, Dahlin, Oloffson, etc. But mostly a function of ice time, power play time, etc, which he is no longer going to get here.

There is a reason Monny isn’t getting it in Calgary.


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[Tkachukwagon]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1447995639841714178

This insiderrr is predicting Eichel to the Flames this week! Would love to see an ATL after that happens.

[mile]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

https://twitter.com/user/status/1447995639841714178

This insiderrr is predicting Eichel to the Flames this week! Would love to see an ATL after that happens.

That's Gaskal lol

Originally Posted by Gaskal

Think the holdup is Brisson trying to reason for a few more or better assets in the package. But whatever happens with this trade, he needs to have a good relationship with Adams now and for future negotiations - and from all accounts, so far it is. So he has to go to bat and try to get the best package possible (which I still think is the Flames unless Anaheim go nuts and cough up both of Zegras/Drysdale).

https://buffalonews.com/sports/sabre...81accd09d.html

But this is getting put on a timer now. Adams can be stubborn as he wants but the docs are right, you can't let a pinched nerve in the spine sit like that for too long or you're looking at long term health ramifications, he needs to get this done soon so that the surgery can happen. The pain has been described by Chris Weidman as "someone taking a screwdriver and pushing it into my spinal cord". I imagine even with painkillers life must be miserable for Jack as well, especially if his agent is saying he needs this done "yesterday morning".

Calgary has a few days of practice before their season actually kicks off, so this gives time for Treliving to get something finalized. I'd like to think Eichel's a Flame by the end of the week.

[djsFlames]

There are multiple nhl rumor accounts (probably echoing each other) about Anaheim and Calgary being the finalists in the sweepstakes over the last two days.

Rumours/smoke/fantasy aside, Buffalo is running out of runway to get this done in time for Eichel to be a factor this season for his destination team, which will be a big factor in any suitor keeping their offer on the table. No team will want to bring him in at christmas when it makes the season a write off. There is mounting pressure on them to resolve this mess now, and the season is starting. No matter what, we're getting an answer soon.

[djsFlames]

The Gaskal Prophecy hath been written. We're in the endgame now.

[dammage79]

I'm calling Eichel to San Jose. Kanes cap hit doesn't count against them anymore.

As per cap friendly today:

https://twitter.com/CapFriendly/stat...a4Gx9Ul7g&s=19

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I'm calling Eichel to San Jose. Kanes cap hit doesn't count against them anymore.

I don't think SJ has anything nearly enticing enough for Buffalo to bite. They might be the most asset-poor team in the entire League.

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[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I don't think SJ has anything nearly enticing enough for Buffalo to bite.

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With the rumors of Hertl not being Happy. I'd say they have equal assets to the Flames to pitch.

[Inglewood Jack]

Originally Posted by dammage79

With the rumors of Hertl not being Happy. I'd say they have equal assets to the Flames to pitch.

SJ is several years behind even Anaheim in the rebuild cycle, as in they haven’t even started yet. Eichel does not fit into the age range for their future core.

[keenan87]

I think Eichel will be traded on Thursday evening. Hopefully it's to the Flames.

[djsFlames]

SJ could pull it off, but it would mean very little to them if Hertl is going the other way. They're already declining, and future looks bleak in the period of Eichel's remaining term. They were already handcuffed by an awful cap structure and getting reprieve from Kane's cap hit is a huge blessing to them. They need the flexibilty badly, so filling that gap with Eichel money makes absolutely zero sense.

They're not an Eichel away from doing anything currently, so while it is possible if they pushed their chips in with Hertl, it makes no sense in their ~5 year outlook.