2021/2022 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I think there is actually a lot of anecdotal evidence to suggest that there was a "line in the sand," and that by the time Gaudreau's NTC kicked in both signs were really confident about re-signing him. We have been hearing a lot recently about how much the Flames have been involved all summer in trying to get a deal done to acquire Jack Eichel, and there is little doubt that this played a huge role in the extension negotiations with Gaudreau. For all we know, this is still an key component to making a final decision on the term and value of a new contract for Gaudreau.

This is possible. Gaudreau may be willing to sign for $8-8.5 million if Eichel is acquired. Otherwise, johnny’s camp would likely want upwards of $9.5 million… considering him the most talented player on the team and considering the fact that no major efforts were made to improve the team to entice Gaudreau to stay.


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[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Poe969

That shows why I don't have faith in management. The "line in the sand" should have been this offseason when they could have dealt him anywhere, now he has all the control. I think if they're in that position, they become buyers to try and make it. They'll have to be a bottom 3 team to be sellers.

I just have never understood the bold statements about a process that none of us know anything about.

Am I too assume you figuered out where the line in the sand should be but none of the Flames management team were aware of it?

To let the pressure point change in the way they did I don't think it's a stretch to assume any or all of the following was true.

1) They think Gaudreau wants to stay and are willing to give it time
2) They looked at moving Gaudreau and didn't like the value in the market

To assume that they just let that deadline slide without a plan at all doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by stemit14

This is possible. Gaudreau may be willing to sign for $8-8.5 million if Eichel is acquired. Otherwise, johnny’s camp would likely want upwards of $9.5 million… considering him the most talented player on the team and considering the fact that no major efforts were made to improve the team to entice Gaudreau to stay.


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I think the conversations have been less-so about how much Gaudreau's camp will sign for under certain circumstances, and moreso about how to structure an extension in the event that the Flames suddenly add a $10 m player.

[Flamesfan05]

Time to find out if Treliving was serious about Eichel or just another bluff
Look like deal is going to happen soon

[mile]

From Insider Trading: https://www.tsn.ca/video/~2296704

At the 2:00 mark, LeBrun says that some teams are now comfortable with the artificial disk replacement after looking at Eichel's medicals, and that the Sabres are now willing to make a part of the Eichel trade conditional. Doesn't think deal is imminent, but more steps in the right direction.

[Vinny01]

I wonder if it can get done before the start of the season?

Going to be really interesting to see where he goes and for how much

[Harry Lime]

No team would be willing to give up an important roster piece, lose Eichel for most of the season with recovery, and give up an unprotected 1st.

Moving to medical records available, and top (3? 10?) protection of the pick is a seismic shift.

[dino7c]

I would give up an unprotected pick for Eichel

[Rutuu]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I just have never understood the bold statements about a process that none of us know anything about.

Am I too assume you figuered out where the line in the sand should be but none of the Flames management team were aware of it?

To let the pressure point change in the way they did I don't think it's a stretch to assume any or all of the following was true.

1) They think Gaudreau wants to stay and are willing to give it time
2) They looked at moving Gaudreau and didn't like the value in the market

To assume that they just let that deadline slide without a plan at all doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Agree on your points...how long till Friedman gets out his quote he stole from a GM, "...if you've got time...use it."

[Roof-Daddy]

IMO best case scenario for me is they get Eichel for futures and keep him on LTIR until he's ready, which would hopefully be after they make the playoffs. Then they add Eichel to an already solid, Sutter coached playoff team. Deal with the cap next off season.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Yes, but the reason he didn't trade him was because he didn't like the price. Same argument.

Sure, so if Gaudreau walks because Treliving doesn’t like the price, we’re all good, right?

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

IMO best case scenario for me is they get Eichel for futures and keep him on LTIR until he's ready, which would hopefully be after they make the playoffs.

And then if he's ready in February, medically cleared to play, and they have to find $10 million in cap space for him? No GM in the league is going to risk that.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

And then if he's ready in February, medically cleared to play, and they have to find $10 million in cap space for him? No GM in the league is going to risk that.

Lose a couple trades and call it a day

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

And then if he's ready in February, medically cleared to play, and they have to find $10 million in cap space for him? No GM in the league is going to risk that.

Oh not to worry, he'd just keep having "set backs" in his rehab.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Lose a couple trades and call it a day

So you give up the equivalent of four first-round picks to acquire a player to help your team this year, and then when he's finally able to help, you have to throw away a couple of top-end roster players for nothing to fit him under the cap. Then you have less talent on the roster and you've blown your prospect depth. Lose now and lose later! Who could resist such an offer?

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Oh not to worry, he'd just keep having "set backs" in his rehab.

And the NHL is going to let the Calgary Flames, of all teams, get away with this why?

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

And the NHL is going to let the Calgary Flames, of all teams, get away with this why?

lol, really?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

lol, really?

he's not wrong...they would probably create a new rule

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

So you give up the equivalent of four first-round picks to acquire a player to help your team this year, and then when he's finally able to help, you have to throw away a couple of top-end roster players for nothing to fit him under the cap. Then you have less talent on the roster and you've blown your prospect depth. Lose now and lose later! Who could resist such an offer?



And the NHL is going to let the Calgary Flames, of all teams, get away with this why?

I never said give them away...if you have Eichel coming in on a bargain you can afford not to get top dollar for a player or two

The alternative is no Eichel

[MrMike]

If a team trades for him before the start of the season would they have to have the cap room before LTIR? And if the season starts and he’s already on LTIR does that mean that the team wouldn’t have to clear the space up?

[Calgary4LIfe]

There are always injuries in a season anyway. If Eichel was traded last season to Calgary for a deal with futures only, then perhaps Calgary would have shut Monahan down, had him get his surgery, and then came back for the playoffs too.



I am not advising that the Flames should or shouldn't make the cap space in trading for Eichel, but lots can happen.