[GDT] Preseason #6. Flames @ Oilers 7pm MT. calgaryflames.com

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

What about it?? The stick that is behind the play when their legs collide? How about the stick that slashed Gaudreau? Let's talk about that.

You're like one of those contestants on American Idol that swears they are going to win and then sounds like someone murdering a cat.

Sometimes its hard to tell if the person actually believes in themselves, or is just straight trolling.

That's the case here.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

You're like one of those contestants on American Idol that swears they are going to win and then sounds like someone murdering a cat.

Sometimes its hard to tell if the person actually believes in themselves, or is just straight trolling.

That's the case here.

Pretty sure he is actually correct. The stick did not cause McDavid to fall. When you watch the slow-motion replay, it was McDavid running into tanev’s skates that caused him to fall. And since tanev did not stick out his leg or skates to catch McDavid’s legs, it’s not a trip.


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[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by Toonage

One of the things that makes me dislike Connor is that he is so fast he's never going to get drilled like we all want to see.

It’s like trying to hit the wind.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

https://imgur.com/LRppKsh

What about Tanev's stick?

It could easily be called a trip.

But honestly if I'm a ref I would hate calling that a trip. Really there is nothing the defender can do there.

If McDavid decides to change his path to try to cut to the middle, then he's likely going to make contact with a stick or leg there. That's not a player reaching out into the lane the playing was going in and tripping him, that's McDavid cutting into the defender and making contact.

Honestly I have no issue with refs not calling penalties in situations like that where the offensive player initiates the incidental contact.

And really I'm not sure what McDavid is always whining about. He seems to think that he has some sort of exemption that defenders are supposed to let him just walk right into the front of the net.

He continues to want to drive wide and then cut hard to try to get to the front of the net with some expectation that the defender should just give up and let him have that lane. Which just isn't going to happen, he's going to get hacked, hit, and tripped.

Honestly I would be shocked if he doesn't have another injury in his career that's a result of him flying into the post or crossbar, he puts himself into that situation multiple times a game, and at the speed he is going at it's not hard to get hurt.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

You're like one of those contestants on American Idol that swears they are going to win and then sounds like someone murdering a cat.

Sometimes its hard to tell if the person actually believes in themselves, or is just straight trolling.

That's the case here.

Are you referring to yourself here because Tanev's stick was a non factor in this play. I know Oiler fans don't live in reality but come on....

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

https://imgur.com/LRppKsh

What about Tanev's stick?

McDavid seems to be under the impression that all contact against him should be a penalty. Oiler media is of the same view.

And therefore it is no surprise that Oiler fans are adamant about it.

But the thing is, a tiny fraction of the incidents that happen in a game get called, simply because it is a fast game with a lot of incidental contact, it is often too difficult to determine intent, there are far too many events to call, the league doesn't want a parade to the penalty box, and officials want to manage the game.

So most borderline infractions aren't going to get called.

The refs didn't call a penalty on Tanev. Therefore it was goaltender interference.

[EVERLAST]

The fan played a clip of Sutter after the game dropping an F bomb in the media scrum.....asking if someone was F ing deaf.
Anybody have this interview. ? Hilarious stuff.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by EVERLAST

The fan played a clip of Sutter after the game dropping an F bomb in the media scrum.....asking if someone was F ing deaf.
Anybody have this interview. ? Hilarious stuff.

That was from a long time ago and it's edited...he said are you def but no F-bomb

[dino7c]

Put the pegs back into the ice, maybe McDavid won't be so reckless in a preseason game. God I hope someone puts him through the boards.

[Chi-Town Hustler]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Put the pegs back into the ice, maybe McDavid won't be so reckless in a preseason game. God I hope someone puts him through the boards.

Id be ok with another Gio take down. But not ok with the resulting "our Savior's rehab" movie b.s.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

And really I'm not sure what McDavid is always whining about. He seems to think that he has some sort of exemption that defenders are supposed to let him just walk right into the front of the net.

He continues to want to drive wide and then cut hard to try to get to the front of the net with some expectation that the defender should just give up and let him have that lane. Which just isn't going to happen, he's going to get hacked, hit, and tripped.

If he gets hacked or tripped then the refs should call a penalty. Same thing if Gaudreau gets hacked or tripped.

Not sure why a fan would want to see more hacking and tripping in the game.

[dino7c]

When other players get tripped (and it happens every game) we don't hear about it for 3 weeks

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

If he gets hacked or tripped then the refs should call a penalty. Same thing if Gaudreau gets hacked or tripped.

I agree that if a player is hacked or tripped, the refs should call a penalty. That being said, it's aggravating to hear the player whine about it after, when the penalty was called.
You drew the penalty, your team scored; move on.

If that play is drawing a penalty most times, why complain? If the defenseman doesn't challenge on that play, they're not going to be an NHL player for long, so you're never going to get the right of way. Ultimately, all the whining may be the reason he doesn't draw as many penalties as he thinks he should.

[zamler]

McDivinity is is the most entitled POS whiner I think I've ever seen in this league and that's saying something.

[stang]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Are you referring to yourself here because Tanev's stick was a non factor in this play. I know Oiler fans don't live in reality but come on....

Actually you can clearly see it go in between his legs (in front of left leg, and behind right leg) which would be why he tripped.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by stang

Actually you can clearly see it go in between his legs (in front of left leg, and behind right leg) which would be why he tripped.

It does. But if you watch the replay in slow motion… the stick is not what caused him to fall, it was contact with Tanev’s legs. The stick is between his legs but does not affect him before he falls over tanev.


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[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by stang

Actually you can clearly see it go in between his legs (in front of left leg, and behind right leg) which would be why he tripped.

Except it wasn't, it was incidental contact with Tanev's leg when he tried to cut into the net. The official was right there, if it was the stick it would have been called. Are Oiler fans going to whine as much as McCrybaby whenever somebody tries to defend him barreling at the goalie?

[SuperMatt18]

And the whole thing is irrelevant anyways.

Maybe the ref would have raised his arm, but the Oilers had scored, so it wouldn’t have been a PP anyways

[stang]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

And the whole thing is irrelevant anyways.

Maybe the ref would have raised his arm, but the Oilers had scored, so it wouldn’t have been a PP anyways

Not exactly, since it was a 5 on 4 already, his hand up would have signaled a 5 on 3. With the goal, would have been back to another 5 on 4 but then the coaches challenge would have put it back to 5 on 3.


However I will concede that in my angle it’s hard to tell what caused the trip, unclear if foot or stick. Legally or illegally Tanev caused him to crash into Markstrom however.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by stang

Not exactly, since it was a 5 on 4 already, his hand up would have signaled a 5 on 3. With the goal, would have been back to another 5 on 4 but then the coaches challenge would have put it back to 5 on 3.


However I will concede that in my angle it’s hard to tell what caused the trip, unclear if foot or stick. Legally or illegally Tanev caused him to crash into Markstrom however.

Since it was McDavid’s sudden change of direction that caused the incidental contact with Tanev’s leg, he is responsible for the contact and for its consequences to himself and to Markstrom. IMO as the game gets faster the risk of serious injuries in this kind of situation will increase astronomically. It’s time the NHL made players responsible for moving at a speed at which they can control their movement when heading toward another player, in the same way that they are responsible for controlling their sticks.