10-05-2021, 02:33 PM
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#641
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Buff
If there was no goal the ref's arm would have gone up to signal a penalty on Tanev. I'm sure both refs were thinking, "okay, I gotta call this one.... oh. never mind".
Quite often a ref raises hand to signal a penalty but the offensive team scores and the ref waives off the penalty call because the penalty happened before the goal. So in this instance, I think we have stuff that happens quite a bit. A penalty happens, the ref doesn't get a chance to signal penalty because the puck goes in the net, so they don't call the penalty. The penalty still occurred before the goal.
Yet, he still wants a call...
His whining game is strong. He whines to make things easier for him. He needs to make things easier because he can't win.
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Oilers were on the PP. Tanev committed a penalty.
When you commit a penalty shorthanded and the other team scores before you can touch the puck, it removes the time remaining in the first penalty, and then the second penalty starts.
So the refs blew the call here.
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10-05-2021, 02:35 PM
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#642
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil Stain
Oilers were on the PP. Tanev committed a penalty.
When you commit a penalty shorthanded and the other team scores before you can touch the puck, it removes the time remaining in the first penalty, and then the second penalty starts.
So the refs blew the call here.
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It was goalie interference.
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10-05-2021, 02:37 PM
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#643
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Wastedyouth
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If they commit to that as the top 4, I think that a bottom pairing of Valimaki-Zadorov is actually pretty good. If the emergence of Kylington is real, then that saves the makeup of the d-core for the season. No pressure.
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10-05-2021, 02:48 PM
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#644
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
It was goalie interference.
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https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-goalten...ed/c-297375900
Not according to the NHL rulebook.
(d) The standard for overturning the call in the event of a "NO GOAL" call on the ice is that the NHL Situation Room (which shall include a former referee in the Officiating Department in the decision-making process), after reviewing any and all available replays and consulting with the Referee who made the original call, determines that the goal on the ice should have been allowed because either: (i) there was no actual contact of any kind initiated by the attacking Player with the goalkeeper; or (ii) the attacking Player was pushed, shoved or fouled by a defending Player causing the attacking Player to come into contact with the goalkeeper; or (iii) the attacking Player's positioning within the crease did not impair the goalkeeper's ability to defend his goal and, in fact, had no discernible impact on the play.
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10-05-2021, 02:53 PM
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#645
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ
Looks like the Oilers and McBabyBack &*%$# are already planting the seed to get some favourable officiating this season.
Honestly, next time I hope Tanev or somebody else blows him up with a good clean check, don't even look at the puck.
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Just counting down the time until Zadorov plows through him with a Cory Sarich on Marleau type hit.
He deserves everything that comes his way.
Question will be how many Oilers come flying over the bench when their mouthy bitch captain gets laid out.
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10-05-2021, 03:15 PM
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#646
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil Stain
https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-goalten...ed/c-297375900
Not according to the NHL rulebook.
(d) The standard for overturning the call in the event of a "NO GOAL" call on the ice is that the NHL Situation Room (which shall include a former referee in the Officiating Department in the decision-making process), after reviewing any and all available replays and consulting with the Referee who made the original call, determines that the goal on the ice should have been allowed because either: (i) there was no actual contact of any kind initiated by the attacking Player with the goalkeeper; or (ii) the attacking Player was pushed, shoved or fouled by a defending Player causing the attacking Player to come into contact with the goalkeeper; or (iii) the attacking Player's positioning within the crease did not impair the goalkeeper's ability to defend his goal and, in fact, had no discernible impact on the play.
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Your argument is that he was fouled.
Mine is that, after driving the net, and falling as a result of Tanev's defending, he slid into the goalie.
No penalty was called.
He was not pushed, shoved or fouled by a defending player. He slid into the goalie.
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10-05-2021, 03:22 PM
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#647
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Wastedyouth
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If our biggest issue this year is the bottom pair, then it will be a good year.
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10-05-2021, 03:34 PM
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#648
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Scoring Winger
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My one big take away from last night was the top line for the Flames was too much for McDavid's line. Tippett was actively trying to match lines away from the Lindholm line and always have them out against the fourth line. When line matching didn't work, Tippett later resorted to combining his two stars on one line.
Against elite scoring stars the Flames top players drove the play rather than being driven into the ground. My two biggest concerns with this team is their ability to match up against the other top line players and their ability to win the special teams battle.
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10-05-2021, 03:43 PM
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#649
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Wastedyouth
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Stone is a solid presence to have beside any of the tough guys. In limited time they wouldn't be too much of a liability.
Valimaki with Gudbranson/Zadorov makes me nervous.
Rasmus definitely needs to be better. While he isn't fast the one thing he has going his way is that he's smart. He's got the hockey sense to figure out how to help his team more than hinder it.
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10-05-2021, 03:49 PM
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#650
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
Just counting down the time until Zadorov plows through him with a Cory Sarich on Marleau type hit.
He deserves everything that comes his way.
Question will be how many Oilers come flying over the bench when their mouthy bitch captain gets laid out.
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I've fantasized about this as well (I don't get out much).
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10-05-2021, 03:55 PM
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#652
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
One of the things that makes me dislike Connor is that he is so fast he's never going to get drilled like we all want to see.  |
Oh no.....his day will come. Even the great Gretzky got hit and McSaviour has fewer knuckle dragging thumb sucking trogledites to defend him when it happens .
Not if it happens .....when it happens. And I'll sit hear waiting with anticipation for the God of hockey to get his....its coming.
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10-05-2021, 04:11 PM
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#653
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EVERLAST
Oh no.....his day will come. Even the great Gretzky got hit...
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Sure, but Gretzky was not especially fast.
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10-05-2021, 04:21 PM
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#654
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil Stain
Oilers were on the PP. Tanev committed a penalty.
When you commit a penalty shorthanded and the other team scores before you can touch the puck, it removes the time remaining in the first penalty, and then the second penalty starts.
So the refs blew the call here.
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Except Tanev didn't commit a penalty. McDavid tried to cut to the net and the players legs collided, there was no intention to trip but crybaby thinks everybody should just let him walk in and not defend. The refs blew that call, should have been goalie interference.
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10-05-2021, 04:28 PM
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#655
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Except Tanev didn't commit a penalty. McDavid tried to cut to the net and the players legs collided, there was no intention to trip but crybaby thinks everybody should just let him walk in and not defend. The refs blew that call, should have been goalie interference.
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Exactly. Tanev didn’t stick out his leg to trip him… McDavid tried to go through tanev’s legs and ran into his skates which made him fall into Markstrom. Really wish he would have been mauled for crashing into Markstrom. We all knew he was going to get the call his way anyways… cause he’s the golden child. Might as well take matters into your own hands and make him pay for it. He keeps driving into goalies… make him pay for it.
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10-05-2021, 04:39 PM
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#656
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Except Tanev didn't commit a penalty. McDavid tried to cut to the net and the players legs collided, there was no intention to trip but crybaby thinks everybody should just let him walk in and not defend. The refs blew that call, should have been goalie interference.
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https://imgur.com/LRppKsh
What about Tanev's stick?
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10-05-2021, 04:44 PM
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#657
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil Stain
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What about it?? The stick that is behind the play when their legs collide? How about the stick that slashed Gaudreau? Let's talk about that.
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10-05-2021, 04:46 PM
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#658
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Oil Stain
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It's a penalty.
But the absolute level of complaining, whining and self-entitled lobbying that McEgo does is silly.
I get it though - their best chance is to get on the powerplay. That's the game plan.
He has that lethal combination of being both irritating but without an ounce of actual charisma.
Last edited by Jiri Hrdina; 10-05-2021 at 04:54 PM.
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10-05-2021, 04:52 PM
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#659
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In Your MCP
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Watching Hot Dog Hans
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One of these days a dman is going to read that patented Mcdavid cut to the net, and put his elbow into his earhole. He's an exciting player, but he's always taken a huge risk doing that move that one day is going to really backfire.
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10-05-2021, 04:53 PM
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#660
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Lifetime Suspension
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How much went uncalled that led to Gaudreau sitting out the third?..
The refs #### up a lot. That's the NHL. Jesus, move on.
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