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Old 09-16-2021, 10:51 AM   #181
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article title is on Brady, but talks about fitness of both Tkachuk's



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Well this is great news.
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Old 09-16-2021, 10:52 AM   #182
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https://www.si.com/hockey/news/brady...ttawa-senators
That was a couple years ago. Hopefully he's keeping it up. A lot of people go to Roberts. Some keep it up through the season, some don't.
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Old 09-16-2021, 10:55 AM   #183
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Tkatchuk will and should be Captain.

I support that.
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That was a couple years ago. Hopefully he's keeping it up. A lot of people go to Roberts. Some keep it up through the season, some don't.
sure couple years old, but real information, not speculation
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Old 09-16-2021, 10:58 AM   #185
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Given what we saw last season maybe he should get his money back.

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Tkatchuk will and should be Captain.

I support that.
Why? What has he done to be considered worthy of captaincy? Honesty don't see it. I like him as a player but think there are at least 5 better choices for captaincy.

He doesn't lead on the ice unless it's after a whistle. He has a lot to learn IMO. He needs to take his game to another level and mature a bit more on the ice . Off the ice he says the right things.
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There's no clear cut leader out of the bunch.
Why rush to name a captain?
Just keep rotating the As until someone truly steps up based on merit and not weaponize it as a way for someone to stay or have it burn the ones that didn't get it.
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Old 09-16-2021, 11:19 AM   #188
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Given what we saw last season maybe he should get his money back.

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His "off" year is really overblown around here.

Yes, he wasn't as good as he has been - but not every season is equal, and having two mid-season coaching changes in back to back years clearly screwed with most of the team.

Tkachuk should be the Captain going forward (if he's here long term).
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His "off" year is really overblown around here.

Yes, he wasn't as good as he has been - but not every season is equal, and having two mid-season coaching changes in back to back years clearly screwed with most of the team.

Tkachuk should be the Captain going forward (if he's here long term).
I think Tkachuk was easily one of the most impacted players by no fans and living in isolation. A 23 year old kid on his own where he couldn’t see his family for a few months or let out any steam.

Having his teammates tell him to tone it down and some fans online turning on him for the first time in his career here likely contributed to his struggles.

He has all the motivation in the world in a contract year to prove he is the player he knows he can be. If they do not feel he should be the C to start the season they shouldn’t name one and let him earn that along with a long term deal.
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I thought there were a few players that could be decent picks for captain, with Lindholm being my personal favourite.

Having said that, I am surprised that they are in a rush to name a captain. They just lost their longtime captain and the core is, to put it mildly, under some scrutiny to perform this year. I would wait it out and see whether it makes sense to name an old guard guy or potentially blow it up and go in a different direction.
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I thought there were a few players that could be decent picks for captain, with Lindholm being my personal favourite.

Having said that, I am surprised that they are in a rush to name a captain. They just lost their longtime captain and the core is, to put it mildly, under some scrutiny to perform this year. I would wait it out and see whether it makes sense to name an old guard guy or potentially blow it up and go in a different direction.
Damn, I always forget about Lindholm being legit Captain material...not sure he's the off-ice captain type tho
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Maybe they need three captains

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Give him (Tkachuk) and 8x8.25 year deal and the C

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If Tkachuk wants to remain a Flame long term, he should be named Captain immediately.

So many people talk about how the core quits and disappears in important games, and that no one shows enough emotion or battle, but then uses Tkachuk's emotion and battle level as a reason to not name him captain?
Last year we saw Tkachuk's game take a hit, after wide speculation that his teammates told him to calm down, or reel it in. Maybe it's time we have a leader that tells his teammates to give a crap, and put it all out there instead.

I personally would love to see a leader, and group of leaders that demands the most from each player, within their skill set. Tkachuk, Lucic, Tanev. those are guys that you see laying it on the line shift after shift, and going to war for their teammates game in and game out. I'd be thrilled to see Tkachuk with a "C", and Lucic and Tanev with "A"s.
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People seem to forget when everyone turned on Gaudreau and Monahan after the Dallas playoff series (when Tkachuk was the golden child that season), how quickly Tkachuk put himself in front of the slings and arrows.

He's a leader. And he should be.
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Tkachuk will be captain, just not now. He’s a great player and I love his compete, but he’s not ready to lead a team.
If he can accept that, and understand that he still needs to work on his game and his personal growth, it’ll make him an even better captain when the time comes.
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If Tkachuk wasn't so greedy, he would be my personal favorite for captain.

But based on his current contract, his brother's status, and his father's track record, it's obvious that he'll never had a good contract and that his main loyalty is to his income.

The Tkachuk's are excellent at maximizing their salary. It's very impressive. I don't mean to insult Tkachuk by calling him greedy. If anything, it's professional, because hockey is a business.
But I also think those who take hometown discounts and show loyalty to the city should be rewarded.

Lindholm is underpaid. But he doesn't have a ton of term left. And he didn't really sign a discount. Rather, the contract was just a genius moves by Treliving.

Johnny seems more likely to sign a reasonable contract that Tkachuk. But this is getting into pure speculative territory.

Backlund is unbelievably outstanding in the community. He's not underpaid now, but he has been underpaid for a lot of his tenure with the Flames.
If being the captain means being great in the community, Backlund should get it hands down. We don't really know what goes on in the dressing room, so it's tough to guess who is actually the best leader.

I'm confident that the Flames will make a good choice. The Flames have had good captains for a lot of their history. It's one of the long term organizational strengths. Just like how they've always been good at drafting and developing small/skilled players.

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As much as I believe Backlund deserves the C, I would be fine with Matthew being named along with his extension.

That said I also see the value of not pinning the C on him right at this time as Monkeyman posted a couple of posts above me.
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If Tkachuk wasn't so greedy, he would be my personal favorite for captain.

But based on his current contract, his brother's status, and his father's track record, it's obvious that he'll never had a good contract and that his main loyalty is to his income.

The Tkachuk's are excellent at maximizing their salary. It's very impressive. I don't mean to insult Tkachuk by calling him greedy. If anything, it's professional, because hockey is a business.
But I also think those who take hometown discounts and show loyalty to the city should be rewarded.

Lindholm is underpaid. But he doesn't have a ton of term left. And he didn't really sign a discount. Rather, the contract was just a genius moves by Treliving.

Johnny seems more likely to sign a reasonable contract that Tkachuk. But this is getting into pure speculative territory.

Backlund is unbelievably outstanding in the community. He's not underpaid now, but he has been underpaid for a lot of his tenure with the Flames.
If being the captain means being great in the community, Backlund should get it hands down. We don't really know what goes on in the dressing room, so it's tough to guess who is actually the best leader.

I'm confident that the Flames will make a good choice. The Flames have had good captains for a lot of their history. It's one of the long term organizational strengths. Just like how they've always been good at drafting and developing small/skilled players.
Lol, jump to conclusions much?
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Lol, jump to conclusions much?
Yep, basically the entire post was pure conjecture.

It's a conversation about captainhood. There's really not a lot to go off of.
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