2021/2022 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[mile]

Just heard Hoven's interview. Also says Ducks ownership is patient and knows their rebuild will probably last two/three more years. They remain very interested in Eichel and will circle back when the asking price comes down. Have no interest in including Drysdale, Zegras, or McTavish.

So they were offering Gibson and maybe one of Steel, Terry, or Jones? I doubt they would include Comtois.

Still think Eichel doesn't make much sense for the Ducks. Young players still early in their development, Eakins is still coach, and if they were trying to make a hockey trade that probably means they don't want to give up their 1st round pick or prospects. Gibson out, Eichel in seems like a lateral move at best. Changing their offer to include prospects and a likely high pick seems like a waste for a team still rebuilding. I also think Buffalo will always look at Drysdale, Zegras, and McTavish and demand that one of them has to be in the offer.

Other rumored offers I've seen out there:
Vegas: Smith, Krebs, Hague, 1st
NYR: Georgiev, Kravtsov, Jones, 1st


Not great offers out there.

[Sandman]

Boucher IMO is an excellent prospect-he might not make it as a first-liner, but he'll be an impact player in the league. He's big, he can skate, and he's uber mean and physical-he can impact the game in many ways, and he has some offensive skill. Some players get 2-3 hits in a game, but Boucher can get that often in one shift. That said, I would not have taken him 10th overall as the Sens did. I think they really loved this kid, and they knew he wouldn't make it past the late first/ early second. I like the team they are building though-big, mean, and fast.

[Flamesfan05]

The Sens have drafted better than the Flames so I would not laugh at their drafting as a Flames fan

[bax]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

The Sens have drafted better than the Flames so I would not laugh at their drafting as a Flames fan

Have they? They committed to a rebuild and acquired a ton of picks, but most of the big prospect writers come away after every draft saying Ottawa dropped the ball

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

The Sens have drafted better than the Flames so I would not laugh at their drafting as a Flames fan

They have? How do you qualify this? How long have they been drafting better than the Flames? I don’t think your comment means much. In what context are you making this statement?

Of course the Sens have drafted better, look where they are drafting. Selling off assets (Stone, Karlson) to bottom out, start a rebuild, and then picking high in the first round for multiple years is the easiest time a GM will have.

@bax, beat me to it

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by mile

They remain very interested in Eichel and will circle back when the asking price comes down. Have no interest in including Drysdale, Zegras, or McTavish.

I just don't see the asking price dropping that much as if they aren't going to include one of those players I can't ever see negotiations going very far.

[Vinny01]

The Ducks trading for Eichel made little sense but including Gibson in the deal makes even less. I would assume getting Eichel they would want their goalie who can steal games helping accelerate their performance

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

The Ducks trading for Eichel made little sense but including Gibson in the deal makes even less. I would assume getting Eichel they would want their goalie who can steal games helping accelerate their performance

Exactly. Trading Gibson only makes sense if the ducks are trying to bottom out in a rebuild since a good goalie can steal games during the season - hurting your chances at a high pick. And if the ducks are acquiring eichel… they would have to include their first round pick. So Gibson for eichel does not make sense for the ducks. Also, Buffalo is going after finishing dead last this season… Gibson is probably the worst player to trade for if you want to do that.


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[stemit14]

If it’s true Gibson is available snd he isn’t used to get eichel, I could see Anaheim getting a king’s ransom for him from teams like Carolina or Edmonton if their goalie experiments start to let them down early in the season. Those teams will be desperate if things go off the rails early.


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[Knightslayer]

If I'm Edmonton I'm calling and offering whatever they want not named McDavid and Draisatl.

[Samonadreau]

Gibson is probably only available for Eichel

[Knightslayer]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Gibson is probably only available for Eichel

That would be ridiculous on Anaheim's part. Plenty of great packages can be had for Gibson. Don't know why they'd only want Eichel or nothing.

Besides, don't think Eichel moves the needle much for them. They're at least 3 to 5 years away from being competitive.

[Erick Estrada]

I realize the Ducks have been a bad team over the past few seasons but Gibson's save percentage has nosedived over the past few seasons to below average. He's was a mirror image to David Rittich last season and that's not where you want to be.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by mile

Just heard Hoven's interview. Also says Ducks ownership is patient and knows their rebuild will probably last two/three more years. They remain very interested in Eichel and will circle back when the asking price comes down. Have no interest in including Drysdale, Zegras, or McTavish.

So they were offering Gibson and maybe one of Steel, Terry, or Jones? I doubt they would include Comtois.

Still think Eichel doesn't make much sense for the Ducks. Young players still early in their development, Eakins is still coach, and if they were trying to make a hockey trade that probably means they don't want to give up their 1st round pick or prospects. Gibson out, Eichel in seems like a lateral move at best. Changing their offer to include prospects and a likely high pick seems like a waste for a team still rebuilding. I also think Buffalo will always look at Drysdale, Zegras, and McTavish and demand that one of them has to be in the offer.

Other rumored offers I've seen out there:
Vegas: Smith, Krebs, Hague, 1st
NYR: Georgiev, Kravtsov, Jones, 1st


Not great offers out there.

I agree, if those are the type of offers that the Sabres have been offered I am not surprised at all that this is dragging on.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Boucher IMO is an excellent prospect-he might not make it as a first-liner, but he'll be an impact player in the league. He's big, he can skate, and he's uber mean and physical-he can impact the game in many ways, and he has some offensive skill. Some players get 2-3 hits in a game, but Boucher can get that often in one shift. That said, I would not have taken him 10th overall as the Sens did. I think they really loved this kid, and they knew he wouldn't make it past the late first/ early second. I like the team they are building though-big, mean, and fast.

That's a fair summary. I think they think they are getting their Tom Wilson. I just see him as a bottom 6 forward, and not great value for that spot.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

That's a fair summary. I think they think they are getting their Tom Wilson. I just see him as a bottom 6 forward, and not great value for that spot.

As much as I hate Tom Wilson, I think in a redraft he would go first round, and it Boucher turns out that way, the Sens will be thrilled. Not that I think it was a good pick. Their whole draft was kind of iffy.


As for Gibson, his last 2 seasons have been sub-par. Not sure the idea of trading him is all that outlandish.

[dammage79]

So Ducks are holding out on the "hockey trade" for Eichel.

Rangers have the prospects and young guns Sabers want but they won't deal the Rangers.

Flames if I had to guess are on the "hockey trade" side of things too. Almost too much like the ducks where they'd be too hesitant to offer up their best prospects.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by dammage79

So Ducks are holding out on the "hockey trade" for Eichel.

Rangers have the prospects and young guns Sabers want but they won't deal the Rangers.

Flames if I had to guess are on the "hockey trade" side of things too. Almost too much like the ducks where they'd be too hesitant to offer up their best prospects.

The difference between the Ducks top prospects and ours is significant. If BT is hesitant to give up any of our top prospects in a trade for a top 5 young C in the NHL he is not doing his job.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

The difference between the Ducks top prospects and ours is significant. If BT is hesitant to give up any of our top prospects in a trade for a top 5 young C in the NHL he is not doing his job.

Yeah. My assumption is that Brad has included top prospect(s) in the offer. In fact, I would not be surprised if the flames’ offer is the closest to what Buffalo is asking for (equivalent of four first round picks) but Buffalo is holding out for better prospects from other teams and for less/no protections on first round picks.


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[bax]

Originally Posted by Ped

As much as I hate Tom Wilson, I think in a redraft he would go first round, and it Boucher turns out that way, the Sens will be thrilled. Not that I think it was a good pick. Their whole draft was kind of iffy.


As for Gibson, his last 2 seasons have been sub-par. Not sure the idea of trading him is all that outlandish.

Tom Wilson did go in the first round. 16th overall.

Wilson is a legitimately great top six forward in addition to all the physical stuff. 33 points in 47 games last year.

Boucher has a very long way to go to get there.