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Old 08-30-2021, 04:28 PM   #4221
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Well yeah...you know...after HE asked to be traded from them.
Still looks vindictive though. I’d be taking notice if I played in the league. Never go to Buffalo.
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Old 08-30-2021, 04:37 PM   #4222
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Rasmus Andersson + Mangiapane + Wolf + 2nd 2022 (becomes 1st 2022 if plays more than 60 games or 15 games in playoffs) for Eichel

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Is that all?

I think Margipanne may be the only one with real value

Andersson has to bounce back or he is an overpaid bottom pairing
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Agree 100%

And a team that is sitting in this mushy middle ground of not good enough to truly compete nor bad enough to completely blow it up is better served not doing anything patchwork if a true talent is available.

Have to also think that Treliving felt that he had a shot or he wouldn't have waited it out.
That or maybe that was always the plan to just hold. I wonder if ownership has cut back the purse strings with all the CSEC organizations during these times. The 1-3 Stampeders roster has no high paid players after Bo with rookies all over and few proven veteran players making any dough. As a fan that's followed the team for decades it looks like an expansion team nothing like teams of the last 15 years.
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I feel like Tkachuk+Dube+1st is an overpay from the Flames but I think the Flames could turn Tkachuk into 2-3 assets and maybe retain one of those assets it could work.

Dube and a 1st seem like pieces the Sabres would definitely want
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I feel like Tkachuk+Dube+1st an overpay from the Flames but I think the Flames could turn Tkachuk into 2-3 assets and maybe retain one of those assets it could work.

Dube and a 1st seem like pieces the Sabres would definitely want
I agree that is a massive overpay, given Eichel's health status.
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I still wait for the Sabres to blink
Me too.

But there are other teams in on Eichel so we’ll see what they do. Even if Sabres blink you can be outbid.
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Old 08-30-2021, 08:27 PM   #4228
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Me too.

But there are other teams in on Eichel so we’ll see what they do. Even if Sabres blink you can be outbid.


If you are after Eichel, it should be assumed that you have given your best offer.

After that, it is on the Sabres to decide amongst the offers.

Why would the Sabres not have told all interested parties to present their best and only offer?

That how you get deals done.

But...rookie GM in Buffalo. Maybe he’s negotiating with 7 different teams.

If that’s the case, buckle up. It’s gonna be awhile.
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Old 08-30-2021, 08:31 PM   #4229
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Wasn't there a rumor that the holdup was finding a team that wanted Tkachuk? I know Tkachuk says the right things and may stay here for another year or two, but something tells me Monahan will not want to waive to Buffalo. And without either one of those two guys as a base for an Eichel deal, I've a hard time making a compelling package for Buffalo.
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If you are after Eichel, it should be assumed that you have given your best offer.

After that, it is on the Sabres to decide amongst the offers.

Why would the Sabres not have told all interested parties to present their best and only offer?

That how you get deals done.

But...rookie GM in Buffalo. Maybe he’s negotiating with 7 different teams.

If that’s the case, buckle up. It’s gonna be awhile.
That's one way to do it. A bake-off.

But I suspect a lot of deals in pro sports don't get done that way. One and only offer?

I'd expect a lot more negotiation and back and forth. Find out the teams interested, narrow the field, then look at their rosters and system and tell them what it will take to get a deal done. Hold firm until you receive the value you think you can get by being patient.
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If you are after Eichel, it should be assumed that you have given your best offer.

After that, it is on the Sabres to decide amongst the offers.

Why would the Sabres not have told all interested parties to present their best and only offer?

That how you get deals done.

But...rookie GM in Buffalo. Maybe he’s negotiating with 7 different teams.

If that’s the case, buckle up. It’s gonna be awhile.

That’s generally the opposite of how deals get done. Although, depending on the situation, you need to be flexible when doing deals.


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Is that all?

I think Margipanne may be the only one with real value

Andersson has to bounce back or he is an overpaid bottom pairing
Just, no.
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That's one way to do it. A bake-off.

But I suspect a lot of deals in pro sports don't get done that way. One and only offer?

I'd expect a lot more negotiation and back and forth. Find out the teams interested, narrow the field, then look at their rosters and system and tell them what it will take to get a deal done. Hold firm until you receive the value you think you can get by being patient.
Bake offs work in some circumstances, like a foreclosure where there are continual offers and the judge wants to end it. But for it to work, Buffalo would have to commit to accepting the best one time offer. And they will never do that.
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Old 08-30-2021, 09:28 PM   #4234
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Bake offs work in some circumstances, like a foreclosure where there are continual offers and the judge wants to end it. But for it to work, Buffalo would have to commit to accepting the best one time offer. And they will never do that.
Exactly. No idea why Buffalo would take an approach like that in this case.
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Old 08-30-2021, 11:24 PM   #4235
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Any recent updates on Gaudreau contract extension talk?
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Old 08-31-2021, 04:39 AM   #4236
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Is that all?

I think Margipanne may be the only one with real value

Andersson has to bounce back or he is an overpaid bottom pairing
Who is this Margipanne guy?
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Old 08-31-2021, 05:51 AM   #4237
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Who is this Margipanne guy?
Flames’ new biggest hope. Kinda like Bennett except he has produced a little bit.
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Flames’ new biggest hope. Kinda like Bennett except he has produced a little bit.
That doesn’t sound like Margipanne that sounds like Mangiapane!
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Old 08-31-2021, 08:23 AM   #4239
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This meeting that happened between team, Eichel, agent, league and NHLPA kind of shows how this refusal to trade him thus far speaks to the integrity of the game and also the need to rethink contracts.

Buffalo feels no pressure to play him which is another obvious sign that they want to tank.

And the fact the player has so little say in his own health is remarkable. They need to change how contracts are written and disputes resolved.

What a total gong show.
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Old 08-31-2021, 08:31 AM   #4240
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Who is this Margipanne guy?
He’s the marzipan version of Eat Bread.
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