Former NHLer Jimmy Hayes passes away at age 31

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Weitz

What Penner is has nothing to do with toxic hockey culture..

How's that?

He's a perfect example of a d-bag that was allowed to continue being a d-bag because he was a solid player.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by btimbit

How's that?

He's a perfect example of a d-bag that was allowed to continue being a d-bag because he was a solid player.

You read his tweets and think of a hockey player? I think of a right wing lunatic.

Anyway, not the thread for this discussion.

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by Weitz

You read his tweets and think of a hockey player? I think of a right wing lunatic.

Anyway, not the thread for this discussion.

Agree, but alas every thread turns into the same.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Fleury's current public persona makes me 100% ok with 14 not being retired. Why honor someone like this. I say this as someone who had only Fleury posters on their wall growing up (ok one star trek poster too).

Fleury is no good. A relative was reasonably close to him and his wife at the time, he’s a bit of a P.O.S. Great hockey player is great, a great hockey player who is a great human being gets lifted.

[Goriders]

Probably not the time to be using the incident to add to a narrative. Out of respect for the family.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Probably not the time to be using the incident to add to a narrative. Out of respect for the family.

This… I’m sorry, not the point of the thread, my apologies…

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

This… I’m sorry, not the point of the thread, my apologies…

I meant Penner. Should have added that.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Weitz

You read his tweets and think of a hockey player? I think of a right wing lunatic.

I haven't read his tweets, I just know he's an A-hole

And he played Left wing

and I'm not pushing a narrative, my narrative has always been how good hockey culture is and I'm using this as an example of the other side's argument. It was just my way of saying he's a massive idiot, if that was too much then my apologies.

[Macman]

I wasn't really familiar with Jimmy Hayes but Kevin Hayes is his younger brother.
Sad story.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Goriders

I meant Penner. Should have added that.

We shouldn't be giving Pancakes Penner or his ilk anymore attention anyway.

[Aleks]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Doubt the police would be there for a health issue though.

Couple things. First off, really heartbreaking situation and condolences to everyone effected. Sometimes young people just pass away, even the most healthy,. I've been to more than my share of individuals in their 30's who died, as recent as last week.

Second, literally 100% of people die of cardiac arrest, that is just plain heart stops, just a misnomer I saw thrown around in here. Yes other things can lead to cardiac arrest, down the chain of decompensation.

Third, police go to every unexpected death. The only ones they don't attend are in nursing homes or hospitals. Nearly all out of hospital deaths, especially all completely unexpected (ie: young age, suspicious circumstances, etc). There is no reason to look into that further other than normal process.

Life is literally a daily gamble

[Northendzone]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Probably not the time to be using the incident to add to a narrative. Out of respect for the family.

this is what i was sort of thinking. i mean perhaps this is why he died, but perhaps it was one of a million other things.

but, in some ways i respect guys like him and theo for tweeting under thier names and owning the tweet.

[PegCityFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

this is what i was sort of thinking. i mean perhaps this is why he died, but perhaps it was one of a million other things.

but, in some ways i respect guys like him and theo for tweeting under thier names and owning the tweet.

Everyone already knows they're morons, no sense in hiding it. They probably pride themselves in it.

[mikeecho]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Fleury's current public persona makes me 100% ok with 14 not being retired. Why honor someone like this. I say this as someone who had only Fleury posters on their wall growing up (ok one star trek poster too).

His personal persona is worse although it is starting to show itself publicly more often.

[mikeecho]

Originally Posted by Boreal

I think this is what happens when a person has too much time and money on their hands snd no purpose. He’s also bitter that his ex wife took some of his money. Now we can see what she was living with. He was on spittin chiclets and he talked about wanting to start a podcast, but it’s pretty obvious why that didn’t happen.

He's a product of where he was raised. He's the poster child for Winkler, Manitoba.

[KelVarnsen]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1430665797131808773

Don’t want to read to much into this tweet but the timing of it makes one think

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

this is what i was sort of thinking. i mean perhaps this is why he died, but perhaps it was one of a million other things.

but, in some ways i respect guys like him and theo for tweeting under thier names and owning the tweet.

Guess you have a point. They do own it. Majority of people hide behind the internet security blanket.

[hockeycop]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Doubt the police would be there for a health issue though.

Police respond to any sudden death outside of hospitals and other medical facilities. Cops see a lot of death.

[Philly06Cup]

Kevin Hayes instagram post

https://www.instagram.com/p/CS98e3srK3J/

[Steve Bozek]

Why is Fleury being dragged into this thread?