2021/2022 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by CFO

I am for once excited Flames D looks green and not elite. Flames have always have a top D core on paper but never performed.

Monahan , valamaki and Dube for Eichel

Kingston+ for Lebanc

Gadreau - Eichel - lebanc

MT - Lindholm - Coleman

Lucic - Backlund - magipagne

Who is this Kingston guy and why am I not aware we have him?

[bax]

Originally Posted by RedHawk12

I really like Domi, but he's a pending UFA, makes 5.3M against the cap and is out until December. I wouldn't want to spend any assets to acquire him, but I would definitely be interested in signing him as a UFA next summer around the 3-3.5M range.

I actually really like Dvorak. I think he has a chance to "pop" with a change of scenery. Lindholm-lite like when we acquired him from Carolina, but the cost would be lower, I would think. I'm in favour of getting him. Not an Eichel type blockbuster but honestly I think has the potential to be a more impact trade than Eichel (after taking into account what it would cost to get Eichel, plus his injury concern).

A Dvorak trade having more of an impact than an Eichel trade? Dvorak has never even hit the 40 point mark.

Enough of spending picks and prospects to acquire middle of the roster players. Go all in and get Eichel or tear it down.

[MrMike]

If we miss on Eichel I’d like to see us go after Rakell. Right shot, right wing, 30 goal scorer, Swedish. Would fit in perfectly with the line up and I could see us being able to extend him.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by MrMike

If we miss on Eichel I’d like to see us go after Rakell. Right shot, right wing, 30 goal scorer, Swedish. Would fit in perfectly with the line up and I could see us being able to extend him.

he'd be a good add, but I'd be a little worried at the cost considering Anaheim probably would prefer to move him outside the division.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by MrMike

If we miss on Eichel I’d like to see us go after Rakell. Right shot, right wing, 30 goal scorer, Swedish. Would fit in perfectly with the line up and I could see us being able to extend him.

Have to think he’d cost a 1st, or two 2nds.

…this team just can’t keep doing that for support pieces. My hope is Eichel, or go in as-is for one final death rattle before it’s game over and the rebuild starts in earnest.

[CFO]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Who is this Kingston guy and why am I not aware we have him?

Oops

Kylington

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Have to think he’d cost a 1st, or two 2nds.

…this team just can’t keep doing that for support pieces. My hope is Eichel, or go in as-is for one final death rattle before it’s game over and the rebuild starts in earnest.

I agree, but I don’t see them rebuilding. If you can’t get Johnny a superstar center for the love of god give him a right show sniper.

That or get Tarasenko if he’s cheap and willing to waive to come here.

Eichel
Rakell
Tarasenko

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by MrMike

I agree, but I don’t see them rebuilding. If you can’t get Johnny a superstar center for the love of god give him a right show sniper.

That or get Tarasenko if he’s cheap and willing to waive to come here.

Eichel
Rakell
Tarasenko

Given that no extension is signed as of yet, if Eichel doesn’t come through…are we even extending Johnny at that point?

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by MrMike

I agree, but I don’t see them rebuilding. If you can’t get Johnny a superstar center for the love of god give him a right show sniper.

That or get Tarasenko if he’s cheap and willing to waive to come here.

Eichel
Rakell
Tarasenko

Come on man

Monahan was injured. Get ready for the Johnny/Mony show again.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Come on man



Monahan was injured. Get ready for the Johnny/Mony show again.

People forget, but Monahan looked great for the first ten games or so last season.

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[TheChief]

^^ lol

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

People forget, but Monahan looked great for the first ten games or so last season.

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I thought it was mostly Gaudreau finding his scoring touch. He did have a great first 5 games scoring 2G 5A 7Pts. Was that a hot streak, or a healthy Monahan? it’s too hard to tell. I have s hard time remembering him as great because I remember the season as a whole. I definitely remember him trying to be more physical out there.

Here’s my question though - if the team believes that Monahan can return to being great, why have they been shopping him for the last 2 years? (I’m just basing it off talk with guys like Friedman on the fan 960 etc.)

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I thought it was mostly Gaudreau finding his scoring touch. He did have a great first 5 games scoring 2G 5A 7Pts. Was that a hot streak, or a healthy Monahan? it’s too hard to tell. I have s hard time remembering him as great because I remember the season as a whole. I definitely remember him trying to be more physical out there.

Here’s my question though - if the team believes that Monahan can return to being great, why have they been shopping him for the last 2 years? (I’m just basing it off talk with guys like Friedman on the fan 960 etc.)

Monahan was more physical off the bat. He was also making some sweet passes to Gaudreau. In January he was PPG.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I thought it was mostly Gaudreau finding his scoring touch. He did have a great first 5 games scoring 2G 5A 7Pts. Was that a hot streak, or a healthy Monahan? it’s too hard to tell. I have s hard time remembering him as great because I remember the season as a whole. I definitely remember him trying to be more physical out there.

Here’s my question though - if the team believes that Monahan can return to being great, why have they been shopping him for the last 2 years? (I’m just basing it off talk with guys like Friedman on the fan 960 etc.)

Likely for similar reasons that we’ve all talked about on here. Poor defensive play, and an inability to drive play.

When he’s healthy, he’s a good finisher - but that’s about the extent of his strengths. He’s kind of like Mike Hoffman in that sense.

[EVERLAST]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I thought it was mostly Gaudreau finding his scoring touch. He did have a great first 5 games scoring 2G 5A 7Pts. Was that a hot streak, or a healthy Monahan? it’s too hard to tell. I have s hard time remembering him as great because I remember the season as a whole. I definitely remember him trying to be more physical out there.

Here’s my question though - if the team believes that Monahan can return to being great, why have they been shopping him for the last 2 years? (I’m just basing it off talk with guys like Friedman on the fan 960 etc.)

This sounds like when they interviewed Sutter last year and he said he laughs when he listens to the fan 960 because they talk allot .....but aren't right about too much.
Good ol Darryl.....at least he's....TBQH.....lol

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Monahan was more physical off the bat. He was also making some sweet passes to Gaudreau. In January he was PPG.

I don’t really believe all of Monahan’s issues were injury related

But I am pretending they were to get ready for the show again

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I know everyone is down on Domi these days, but I think he would be the perfect guy to play under Sutter. He's undersized, but he's tough and scrappy-and he's only 2 seasons removed from 75 points/80PIM. He maybe hasn't had an opportunity the last few years to get any footing, but he's still young. If the price is right, I wouldn't mind him for this team.

Dvorak is fairly lacklustre, but he's another guy who could flourish here IMO-plus, he would have his buddy Chucky.

People have fantasy trades for this guy all the time, and want to trade away Monahan but seem to forget that he is only 2 seasons removed from 82 points, has outscored Domi over the next 2 seasons and is only 6 months older than Domi.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

People forget, but Monahan looked great for the first ten games or so last season.

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Yes, he skated the best he ever has.

[kehatch]

Monahan has limited speed and he isn't a high end puck distributor. He isn't physical and he doesn't provide that net presence. He is a middling face off guy as well. His "give a damn" meter seems to be stuck on low as well. None of that is ideal for a C.

Outside of the 18/19 season, he has been consistently a 60 point guy. He is an elite goal scorer, but some of that can be attributed to playing with Gaudreau.

The real knock against Monahan isn't his offense though, it's his defensive play. If he was a proficient defensive player you could live with 60 points and 25 goals. But he isn't, especially when going up against the other teams top line.

When he was drafted his rep was as a defensively capable C. If Sutter can get him to up the intensity and play a strong defensive game he would be a worthwhile top 6 forward (see Lindholm). Monahan did play much better D under Sutter, but his offense dried up. Maybe with a full camp and a fresh start he can find the balance.

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by kehatch

Monahan has limited speed and he isn't a high end puck distributor. He isn't physical and he doesn't provide that net presence. He is a middling face off guy as well. His "give a damn" meter seems to be stuck on low as well. None of that is ideal for a C.

Outside of the 18/19 season, he has been consistently a 60 point guy. He is an elite goal scorer, but some of that can be attributed to playing with Gaudreau.

The real knock against Monahan isn't his offense though, it's his defensive play. If he was a proficient defensive player you could live with 60 points and 25 goals. But he isn't, especially when going up against the other teams top line.

When he was drafted his rep was as a defensively capable C. If Sutter can get him to up the intensity and play a strong defensive game he would be a worthwhile top 6 forward (see Lindholm). Monahan did play much better D under Sutter, but his offense dried up. Maybe with a full camp and a fresh start he can find the balance.

Everything you just said is wrong. Since entering the league in 2013-14 he is top 19 in points, top 9 in goals and slightly above league average in faceoff percentage.