Friedman: Flames have begun extension talks with Gaudreau & Eichel speculation

[greyshep]

Originally Posted by shutout

Flames will over pay Zadorov $4.5M for five years.

Gaudreau will not be signed and will leave as a UFA next season 2022.

Next summer Flames will qualify Tkachuk with a multi year deal. Tkachuk will take the team to arbitration. Flames will agree to the two year deal at $9.5M. Tkachuk will leave as a UFA in 2024.

Monahan won't be traded. Monahan won't be resigned. Monahan will leave the team as a UFA in 2023.

Flames will make no more notable trades or UFA signings except to sign Michael Stone to a two year deal the beginning of September.

For the next two years the Flames will finish as the second wild card team in the west, just making the playoffs by one point on shootout wins in the final games of the season. They will go into the playoffs chanting and shouting the mantra "All you have to do is get in to win!". They will get swept both years and the four losses will be by more than three goals every game.

2023 Treliving and Sutter will not have their contracts renewed. The organization will start another misguided attempt to rebuild on the fly with a new GM and head coach.

Such has been prophesied.

We should introduce you to the guy with the "Fun" scenario thread, you two would likely be great friends.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by shutout

Flames will over pay Zadorov $4.5M for five years.

Gaudreau will not be signed and will leave as a UFA next season 2022.

Next summer Flames will qualify Tkachuk with a multi year deal. Tkachuk will take the team to arbitration. Flames will agree to the two year deal at $9.5M. Tkachuk will leave as a UFA in 2024.

Monahan won't be traded. Monahan won't be resigned. Monahan will leave the team as a UFA in 2023.

Flames will make no more notable trades or UFA signings except to sign Michael Stone to a two year deal the beginning of September.

For the next two years the Flames will finish as the second wild card team in the west, just making the playoffs by one point on shootout wins in the final games of the season. They will go into the playoffs chanting and shouting the mantra "All you have to do is get in to win!". They will get swept both years and the four losses will be by more than three goals every game.

2023 Treliving and Sutter will not have their contracts renewed. The organization will start another misguided attempt to rebuild on the fly with a new GM and head coach.

Such has been prophesied.

Your prophesy sucks! If you’re going to make a prophesy make it something good. Otherwise, you need to give a way out, like gathering all the infinity stones or something. Your scenario just creates apathy, even if it has a chance of being true

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Re: eichel. If he's done in Buffalo, and the relationship is beyond repair, why haven't they let him do the procedure he desires in parallel to getting a trade done?

Am curious as to wtf is going regarding the player at this point, both from a surgery perspective (I've heard regardless of which procedures ultimately get done, he needs surgery before playing again) and from a trade perspective (agent seems pretty clear, that a trade out of Buffalo is the only desired outcome).

I think the risk is in the event he does get the surgery and things don't go well then he is completely untradeable or value is significantly reduced. That scenario my be unlikely, but there is only one Eichel and they have his rights. If he is traded before then it is completely on the team that acquires him and they would have gotten their perceived value for him.

[cowtown75]

Originally Posted by 442scotty

I wonder if Gaudreau is waiting to see what happens with the makeup of the team before he commits. If his good friend Monahan were to get traded that might make him less likely to resign.

I was kind wondering the same thing about Johnny and if he is waiting to see what kind of direction BT is going this off season. Otherwise, I think BT would of got him inked before July 31st.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by cowtown75

I was kind wondering the same thing about Johnny and if he is waiting to see what kind of direction BT is going this off season. Otherwise, I think BT would of got him inked before July 31st.

I still think there are two or three deals on the table to address a variety of scenarios heading into the season. It would make sense that they are holding off until after Eichel is moved.

[mikeecho]

Originally Posted by cowtown75

I was kind wondering the same thing about Johnny and if he is waiting to see what kind of direction BT is going this off season. Otherwise, I think BT would of got him inked before July 31st.

If Treliving somehow manages to get Eichel without losing Tkachuk, the Flames become a USA hockey all star team. Those guys like to stay together, so I'd think that an Eichel acquisition would improve the likelihood that Gaudreau and Tkachuk stay beyond the end of their current deals.

[cowtown75]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I still think there are two or three deals on the table to address a variety of scenarios heading into the season. It would make sense that they are holding off until after Eichel is moved.

Yes, this makes sense. It does feel like there is a lot going on in the background being worked on right now and it's like we are waiting for the first domino to fall.

[cowtown75]

Originally Posted by mikeecho

If Treliving somehow manages to get Eichel without losing Tkachuk, the Flames become a USA hockey all star team. Those guys like to stay together, so I'd think that an Eichel acquisition would improve the likelihood that Gaudreau and Tkachuk stay beyond the end of their current deals.

That would be ideal, and insane !

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

Your prophesy sucks! If you’re going to make a prophesy make it something good. Otherwise, you need to give a way out, like gathering all the infinity stones or something. Your scenario just creates apathy, even if it has a chance of being true

My prophesy is the Flames will trade their whole team to Buffalo for Eichel.

Eichel will win the next 10 stanley cups on his own wearing a halo to stabilize his broken neck.

Thowt shall be done.

[InternationalVillager]

Dog days of August really showing up in this thread.

[Stanley]

Originally Posted by mikeecho

If Treliving somehow manages to get Eichel without losing Tkachuk, the Flames become a USA hockey all star team. Those guys like to stay together, so I'd think that an Eichel acquisition would improve the likelihood that Gaudreau and Tkachuk stay beyond the end of their current deals.

A line of Gaudreau/Eichel/Tkachuk would be bonkers!

[Niemo]

Gaudreau - Eichel - Tkachuk
Hanifin - Fox

What could / could’ve been….

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

Dog days of August really showing up in this thread.

We’re all just waiting for something/anything to happen. It beats catching up on your foot dangling.

[Stanley]

Originally Posted by Niemo

Gaudreau - Eichel - Tkachuk
Hanifin - Fox

What could / could’ve been….

##### Fox

[Toonage]

How could that have been ?? lol

[Niemo]

Yes, f Fox. Monahan sticks out as a sore thumb not being American or Swedish.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Toonage

How could that have been ?? lol

Fox stays and the Flames somehow still get Hanifin and also the Flames make the trade for Eichel? Or win the lottery and choose Eichel over McDavid?

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Fox stays and the Flames somehow still get Hanifin and also the Flames make the trade for Eichel? Or win the lottery and choose Eichel over McDavid?

Thats a big leap but ok.

Could have had Mario. If only we kept Hull and traded for Gretzky. Brodeur & Giguere. What a team.

I do that right?

[Niemo]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Fox stays and the Flames somehow still get Hanifin and also the Flames make the trade for Eichel? Or win the lottery and choose Eichel over McDavid?

Ok, I forgot about the Fox and Hanifin deal were the same, but sounded like Fox was a sweetener that could’ve been replaced…

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Thats a big leap but ok.

Could have had Mario. If only we kept Hull and traded for Gretzky. Brodeur & Giguere. What a team.

I do that right?

Getting close.