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Old 07-30-2021, 01:24 PM   #1621
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Man I wish I knew what the Sabres ask from CGY is, so I can know whether or not to be mad that Eichel isn't a Flame yet or not haha
What would be the equivalent from Flames?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1420166999406227456
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Old 07-30-2021, 01:26 PM   #1622
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What would be the equivalent from Flames?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1420166999406227456
Monahan, Valimaki, and a 2022 1st would absolutely be a better offer than that.
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Old 07-30-2021, 01:26 PM   #1623
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Monahan
Pelletier/Zary
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1st

^ForeverFlames is right though Calgary's 1st has better value
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1420166999406227456
Valamaki, Zary, 1st and Dube maybe
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What would be the equivalent from Flames?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1420166999406227456

That sounds like it would be:

Monahan
Zary
Valimaki/Dube
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Old 07-30-2021, 01:35 PM   #1627
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Old 07-30-2021, 01:36 PM   #1628
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Much rather part with Dube than Valimaki if possible.
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I'd kill someone for an update from Freidman or Seravalli right now.
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Old 07-30-2021, 01:37 PM   #1630
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I like this a lot better than what I posted. I think it depends on Buffalo and what they think they could move Monahan for at the deadline.

That and Monahan agreeing to the trade...
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Old 07-30-2021, 01:38 PM   #1631
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Monahan
Pelletier/Zary
Valimaki
1st

^ForeverFlames is right though Calgary's 1st has better value
Not so sure that is the case after the Flames got Eichel for that price. Flames would be right there with Vegas and in fact I think they would be the better team.

I am trying to think of a team that would be as equally stacked up front?

1. Eichel
2. Tkachuk
3. Lindholm
4. Gaudreau
5. Mangiapane
6. Backlund
7. Coleman

This team would have 4 1st liners with a 5th emerging in Mange and then 2 guys with excellent 2 way games who have played in and scored at top 6 pace for years.

Vegas would have us beat on the blueline and in net it would be close
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Smith=Backlund to me...

If that's the "ask" from Buffalo to Vegas, than I question why a deal isn't done from Calgary. Is Tre not willing to give up any of Monahan or Tkachuk?
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Not so sure that is the case after the Flames got Eichel for that price. Flames would be right there with Vegas and in fact I think they would be the better team.

I am trying to think of a team that would be as equally stacked up front?

1. Eichel
2. Tkachuk
3. Lindholm
4. Gaudreau
5. Mangiapane
6. Backlund
7. Coleman

This team would have 4 1st liners with a 5th emerging in Mange and then 2 guys with excellent 2 way games who have played in and scored at top 6 pace for years.

Vegas would have us beat on the blueline and in net it would be close
Oh man, Brad, just keep adding draft picks until it gets done. I want to mortgage the future for a few seasons of that.
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If you trade for Eichel I think Monahan returns more value in a separate deal, with one of the teams that missed out on Eichel and are trying to win now.

On his own he might be worth a 1st + prospect which lets the team recoup assets, or a player for player trade for a different area of need. Someone with similar cap hit to make the money work like Matt Dumba. Just some ideas.
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Monahan to Boston for 1st + something??

Bos 1st + Valimaki + Dube for Eichel?

Sign Nick Ritchie and Ryan Murray
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Smith=Backlund to me...

If that's the "ask" from Buffalo to Vegas, than I question why a deal isn't done from Calgary. Is Tre not willing to give up any of Monahan or Tkachuk?
Everyone is too zeroed in on moving Monahan or Tkachuk. IMO, those two better fit what they're doing here than Backs or Gaudreau.

I still say it's none of those guys and instead it's Mangiapane as the roster player that goes. He's 2- 3m chaperthan anyone else, fits Buffalos need for next to no cap hit coming back.

I think the hang up is on which mixture of 2 prospects they want to let go of with the 1st round pick.
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Old 07-30-2021, 01:50 PM   #1637
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Gaudreau - Eichel - Coleman
Tkachuk - Lindholm - Mangiapane
N. Ritchie - Backlund - Pitlick
Lucic - Lewis - B. Ritchie

Gawdin, Phillips, Ruzicka can slot in if they beat out Lewis or B. Ritchie.

Hanifin - Tanev
Zadorov - Andersson
Murray - Kylington / Mackey
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Old 07-30-2021, 01:52 PM   #1638
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Monahan
Pelletier/Zary
Valimaki
1st

^ForeverFlames is right though Calgary's 1st has better value
I didn't think Monahan would be the ask but he's a whole lot better than a 30 year old Smith with one year left, our 1st is very likely better and we can match Krebs and Hague.

If Vegas gets Eichel for that package Treliving needs to go immediately.
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Old 07-30-2021, 01:55 PM   #1639
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Monahan to Boston for 1st + something??

Bos 1st + Valimaki + Dube for Eichel?

Sign Nick Ritchie and Ryan Murray
I like the idea of a three-way with BOS, not sure if they would give a 1st for him though.

Boston:
Monahan

Buffalo:
Studnicka, DeBrusk, 2022 BOS 2nd
Valimaki, Zary, 2022 CGY 1st

Calgary:
Eichel
Wagner

If Boston was willing to give a first I think Buffalo would like this deal more.

Gets Eichel out of the East, which Boston and Buffalo would like. Boston gets their Krejci replacement and clears $5 mil in cap space before taking in Monahan.

I don’t know.
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I don't think we can match Krebs but Hague, yes.
All in all, Calgary should be able to better that VGK offer fairly easily.
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