07-28-2021, 07:21 AM
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#561
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Niemo
So Johnny now has a 26 team NTC?
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Yup. He holds the cards now, at 10 AM I believe.
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07-28-2021, 07:21 AM
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#562
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Niemo
So Johnny now has a 26 team NTC?
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Kicks in at 10AM.
...or maybe at midnight EST last night? I'm not quite sure.
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07-28-2021, 07:22 AM
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#563
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Niemo
So Johnny now has a 26 team NTC?
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10AM I believe it kicks in
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07-28-2021, 07:22 AM
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#564
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
Mason Raymond
A 3rd for Bolig
Frolik though he had a good couple years first
Neal was overpaid for what he brought
Brouwer should never have been brought in at the money we paid him to be something he wasn’t
It’s no secret his biggest issue has been what he does on UFA and apparently he still hasn’t figured it out in the 7 different attempts he’s had. Let see how he does this time around I guess but I’m not holding my breath.
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The conversation is regarding UFA bottom rotation players. Someone made the comment that the cap space gained through Gio’s departure was going to be waisted on the lines of Gudbransdon and Thompson and Lewis.
I don’t consider Brouwer or Neal to fit the bottom rotation. Or at least that was not the intent. Either was Frolik, if anything, he was a very good UFA signing. Bolig was a trade and Raymond was a vet on a rebuilding team that prevented them from doing nothing they didn’t want to do otherwise. In other words, fairly insignificant, but people like to whine anyway, so here we are talking about UFA signings from 7 years ago.
Signing a vet to low cost/low term contracts is something most teams do. They don’t always work out, like any nhl transaction, but the intention is not misguided. I know this is talking in hypothetical’s, but had the Flames signing Patrick Maroon two or three years ago, the avalanche of whining and complaining would have been something to behold.
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07-28-2021, 07:23 AM
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#565
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
I'm pretty sure they are going to sign Edler.
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Ouch. The odds of him playing more than 60 games in a season are not good
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07-28-2021, 07:25 AM
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#567
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
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Rittich in Nashville? Good for him.
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07-28-2021, 07:25 AM
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#568
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First Line Centre
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Rittich news eh…
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07-28-2021, 07:26 AM
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#569
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
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Only one of those that's a bummer is McCabe, and even then, meh.
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07-28-2021, 07:28 AM
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#570
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Franchise Player
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My guesses for CGY:
Edler
Gudbranson
Ullmark
Sceviour or Lewis
They chase after Coleman and miss
They chase after Ritchie and miss
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07-28-2021, 07:29 AM
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#571
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TOfan
The conversation is regarding UFA bottom rotation players. Someone made the comment that the cap space gained through Gio’s departure.
I don’t consider Brouwer or Neal to fit the bottom rotation. Or at least that was not the intent. Either was Frolik, if anything, he was a very good UFA signing. Bologna was a trade and Raymond was a bet on a rebuilding team that prevented them from doing nothing they didn’t want to do otherwise. In other words, fairly insignificant, but people like to whine anyway, so here we are talking about UFA signings from 7 years ago.
Signing a vet to low cost/low term contracts is something most teams do. They don’t always work out, like any nhl transaction, but the intention is not misguided. I know this is talking in hypothetical’s, but had the Flames signing Patrick Maroon two or three years ago, the avalanche of whining and complaining would have been something to behold.
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Good for you that you don’t consider Brouwer or Neal bottom rotation players that’s what they were for the Flames and at top 6 dollars. Fact of the matter is that when Treliving paid them those dollars the risk was higher that they would become mid to bottom 6 players especially in the latter years of their contracts. Rather than ponying up the extra mill or two it would cost to get the sure thing. Bad contracts to aging vets who used to put up top 6 numbers is Trelivings trademark this time of year and it sounds like we are players to do it again with Coleman. You can try to defend Treliving and his UFA performance over the years but this is a results based league and he has next to no results to show for near 8 years of directing the ship so sue me for being disappointed I guess when I hear that we are going after the same blueprint that has netted us those no results in those 8 years.
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07-28-2021, 07:32 AM
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#572
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kyuss275
Are there any dmen left to sign in free agency? Considering flames need a top 4 dman , Tre is going to have to make a trade for one. Considering some teams have already traded some dmen I’m not even sure what’s left available on the trade market?
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Almost all gone. I’m not sure those counselling wait and see are familiar with the list of UFAs. Even the second-tier guys like McCabe are getting snapped up.
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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07-28-2021, 07:35 AM
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#573
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
Good for you that you don’t consider Brouwer or Neal bottom rotation players that’s what they were for the Flames and at top 6 dollars. Fact of the matter is that when Treliving paid them those dollars the risk was higher that they would become mid to bottom 6 players especially in the latter years of their contracts. Rather than ponying up the extra mill or two it would cost to get the sure thing. Bad contracts to aging vets who used to put up top 6 numbers is Trelivings trademark this time of year and it sounds like we are players to do it again with Coleman. You can try to defend Treliving and his UFA performance over the years but this is a results based league and he has next to no results to show for near 8 years of directing the ship so sue me for being disappointed I guess when I hear that we are going after the same blueprint that has netted us those no results in those 8 years.
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Stay on topic. The discussion was about signing the likes of Gudbranson, Lewis, or Thompson. I don’t see the link to Brouwer or Neal whatsoever.
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07-28-2021, 07:39 AM
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#574
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Franchise Player
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Maybe we can get PK Subban AND an additional asset from New Jersey for nothing?
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07-28-2021, 07:46 AM
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#575
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
Maybe we can get PK Subban AND an additional asset from New Jersey for nothing?
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They would need to eat a good chunk of that cap hit
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07-28-2021, 07:48 AM
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#576
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Franchise Player
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Blues want Saad, but also want to move Tarasenko first
Jamie Rivers of 101 ESPN reported (on the air) the Blues could retain up to $2.5M for Tarasenko
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07-28-2021, 07:48 AM
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#577
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Turner Valley
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With Gio gone, would Hamilton entertain coming back or is that bridge burnt? I know he’d be expensive, but he is a stud and has only improved since he left.
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07-28-2021, 07:49 AM
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#578
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
Maybe we can get PK Subban AND an additional asset from New Jersey for nothing?
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aren't we full on RHD?
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07-28-2021, 07:50 AM
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#579
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta
With Gio gone, would Hamilton entertain coming back or is that bridge burnt? I know he’d be expensive, but he is a stud and has only improved since he left.
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I don't think there is a chance at all he would entertain joining the Flames. He basically was ridiculed out of this city.
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07-28-2021, 07:53 AM
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#580
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Canada 02
Blues want Saad, but also want to move Tarasenko first
Jamie Rivers of 101 ESPN reported (on the air) the Blues could retain up to $2.5M for Tarasenko
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Given what has been said about Tarasenko and him being 100% for training camp I would love if we can grab him on the cheap. If he is healthy he would be a lock for 35-40 goals with Johnny feeding him.
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