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		|  07-28-2021, 06:59 AM | #541 |  
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					Originally Posted by Heavy Jack  On top of that we have a lot of good youth that’s pushing, it will be really disappointing if he clogs up the opportunities again with the likes of guys like Thompson and Lewis. |  
I am not sure how many of the young guys are really pushing and if it is a 1 year deal for most of these guys I am okay. I don’t want to try and get skill guys cheap like Leivo but more Sutterish type players who bring good veteran leadership.
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		|  07-28-2021, 06:59 AM | #542 |  
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					Originally Posted by TOfan  Treliving swing big in the UFA market last year. What are you expecting? Chase Hamilton? Overpay Coleman? |  
I am expecting he graduates some guys from Stockton that can fill those roles on the cheap while getting valuable NHL experience instead of throwing money away on mediocre vets.
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		|  07-28-2021, 07:04 AM | #543 |  
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					Originally Posted by Heavy Jack  I was hoping a hockey trade by now had occurred and that Johnny had been extended but instead he’s waiting too long again to close the deal with Johnny which is a big part of how this team should move forward and we get to hear about the glorious role players he’s apparently going after. That includes us potentially overpaying for Coleman which would be a disaster. |  
Who are these role players Treliving has a history of overpaying? Brouwer and Neal were not brought in to be role players. 
 
The Flames can sign Edler and Nate Thompson today, for example, and still trade for Eichel. I would argue those types of signings will not impact the Flame too significantly.
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		|  07-28-2021, 07:06 AM | #544 |  
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		|  07-28-2021, 07:07 AM | #545 |  
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					Originally Posted by TOfan  Who are these role players Treliving has a history of overpaying? Brouwer and Neal were not brought in to be role players. 
 The Flames can sign Edler and Nate Thompson today, for example, and still trade for Eichel. I would argue those types of signings will not impact the Flame too significantly.
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Mason Raymond 
A 3rd for Bolig  
Frolik though he had a good couple years first  
Neal was overpaid for what he brought  
Brouwer should never have been brought in at the money we paid him to be something he wasn’t 
 
It’s no secret his biggest issue has been what he does on UFA and apparently he still hasn’t figured it out in the 7 different attempts he’s had. Let see how he does this time around I guess but I’m not holding my breath.
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		|  07-28-2021, 07:09 AM | #546 |  
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			The negativity over things that hasn't happened yet is so toxic.
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		|  07-28-2021, 07:09 AM | #547 |  
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Not sure why he is calling it a fake rebuild…. Chicago has significantly upgraded their team. Likely will make the playoffs for sure
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		|  07-28-2021, 07:11 AM | #548 |  
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			I’m fine with Gudrbrandon, Lewis and Thompson as long as they’re signed to very small contracts representative of their replacement level abilities. I would like to see contracts that allow them to be replaced by youngsters when they are passed.
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		|  07-28-2021, 07:11 AM | #549 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sofa GM  Not sure why he is calling it a fake rebuild…. Chicago has significantly upgraded their team. Likely will make the playoffs for sure |  
They went into a “rebuild” last summer. It seemed to last less than one year.
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		|  07-28-2021, 07:12 AM | #550 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sofa GM  Not sure why he is calling it a fake rebuild…. Chicago has significantly upgraded their team. Likely will make the playoffs for sure |  
Only in Goal.
		 
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		|  07-28-2021, 07:13 AM | #551 |  
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					Originally Posted by Burning Beard  The negativity over things that hasn't happened yet is so toxic. |  
Happens every year when people see good players sign elsewhere, even worse when it's for cheap.
 
Hard pill to swallow that Calgary just isn't a desirable destination for many UFAs.
 
Which is why when there's potential for adding through trades I hope we're all over it, and willing to outbid other suitors, even to the point of "overpaying" to get the deal done.
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		|  07-28-2021, 07:13 AM | #552 |  
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					Originally Posted by Burning Beard  The negativity over things that hasn't happened yet is so toxic. |  
The problem is everyone thinks the Eichel trade is the big saver. There is so many other things that need to get done outside of that remote trade. Where is the defence upgrade as we continue to watch good value defenseman come off the board? Alex Edler…..my goodness. 
 
Where is the addition of a scoring winger? Blake Coleman for $6MM? Pitlick? Brutal management, that’s the bottom line.
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		|  07-28-2021, 07:14 AM | #553 |  
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					Originally Posted by memphusk  Only in Goal. |  
Not even if Fleury just retires
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		|  07-28-2021, 07:15 AM | #554 |  
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					Originally Posted by memphusk  Only in Goal. |  
Significantly upgraded their defence core, added some secondary scoring, got out of Seabrook/Keith deals, Stan Bowman has had an excellent off season.
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		|  07-28-2021, 07:17 AM | #555 |  
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					Originally Posted by Nelson  I’m fine with Gudrbrandon, Lewis and Thompson as long as they’re signed to very small contracts representative of their replacement level abilities. I would like to see contracts that allow them to be replaced by youngsters when they are passed. |  
Trevor Lewis is 34,    there are better options.
 
Erik Gudbranson would be a #7 type of a dman.    However Flames will like his size 6-5 at 222 pounds.     This player has a Sutter dman written all over him
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		|  07-28-2021, 07:18 AM | #556 |  
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			Are there any dmen left to sign in free agency? Considering flames need a top 4 dman , Tre is going to have to make a trade for one. Considering some teams have already traded some dmen I’m not even sure what’s left available on the trade market?
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		|  07-28-2021, 07:20 AM | #557 |  
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			Salim Valji is new to covering the team. just throwing names at the wall that he thinks the Flames should target. IMO reading his thoughts and ideas on the Flames this past year doesn't seem dialed to where the team is or where it needs to go.
		 
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		|  07-28-2021, 07:20 AM | #558 |  
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					Originally Posted by kyuss275  Are there any dmen left to sign in free agency? Considering flames need a top 4 dman , Tre is going to have to make a trade for one. Considering some teams have already traded some dmen I’m not even sure what’s left available on the trade market? |  
I'm pretty sure they are going to sign Edler.
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		|  07-28-2021, 07:21 AM | #559 |  
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			So Johnny now has a 26 team NTC?
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		|  07-28-2021, 07:21 AM | #560 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sofa GM  All four of those teams you mentioned are clearly better than us. |  
 Canucks finished below us and I think their defense has gotten worse.  Granted, so has ours
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