[Trade] OEL(12% ret), Garland to VAN for Beagle, Eriksson, Roussel, 9th OA, 2022 2nd, 7th

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Athletic trade grades are in and they're exactly what you'd expect:

Originally Posted by Sean Gentille

Coyotes grade: B
Canucks grade: D-

Originally Posted by Corey Pronman

Coyotes grade: A-
Canucks grade: C+

Originally Posted by Dom Luszczyszyn

Coyotes grade: B+
Canucks grade: D-

... Yup. Also some fun stats from Dom:

Despite facing the fifth-toughest competition on Arizona’s blue line last year, Ekman-Larsson put up a 41 percent expected goals percentage and 38 percent actual goals percentage. Relative to teammates, he hasn’t been positive in either regard in any of the last three seasons and last year ranked third last in expected goals and 10th last in actual goals. [...] This is an unmitigated disaster for the Canucks’ long-term outlook, which is a consistent trend for this brain trust that is always putting band-aids on problems they themselves created.

... That's third last NHL-wide. Holy God.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Meers

Hard to say whether this deal or the Ristolainen deal was more laughable.

I feel happy for Arizona and Buffalo fans.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Since1984

I am just happy that Vancouver won't be able to add Kent Johnson to their forward group!

God I hope he goes 9th...if not 13th

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Athletic trade grades are in and they're exactly what you'd expect:





... Yup.

Must be Flames homers lol

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Who is playing those tough minutes then?

Hughes? Myers? C'mon.

More likely by committee, Vancouver isn't a team with a pairing that'll eat 25 mins a night

[Barca]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Athletic trade grades are in and they're exactly what you'd expect:





... Yup.

ok? they were also bitching when we traded for JT Miller. who cares about their opinion?

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I would keep him, the Canucks have 22.3 million to sign Hughes, Pettersson, Garland along with 2 more dmen and 2 more forwards.

Petterson and Hughes will cost $7M each minimum. Those 2 other dman and 2 other forwards will be minimum players.


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[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Barca

I don't think you know who Jason Dickinson is, he's a really good 2way shutdown center. Pearson was on our 2nd line last season, is getting bumped down where he belongs in the 3rd. Then you add in Podkolzin who is also a 2way forward and you've got potentially a good matchup line.

Dickinson might be decent defensively though has 4th line output. Podkolzin has never played in the league, and Pearson is a meh complimentary player that can shoot... when he's paired with skilled players.

I'm supposed to believe because of the word of a ra ra optimist that that trio is a playoff third line? Alright.

At least if you said top six i wouldn't dispute that. But the Canucks bottom six looks to continue to be a weak point.

At least its not as bad as the Oilers!

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I'm just relieved it wasn't Calgary.
Two long-standing rumors can be put to bed today
Ristolainen to Calgary
OEL to Calgary

Ironically, at a time when we are in the greatest need of a top 4 defenseman in years.

(not saying we should have gone after one of them, jus that we need a Dman)

[jg13]

Wow insane trade. What is Benning doing? Absolutely love this for Arizona well played.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Barca

the off season barely started.

True, but they don’t have the cap to improve with a decent defensive dman to anchor the team.


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[Calgary4LIfe]

I think the Canucks got better today... but if they just would have waited one more season!!


Whew! Just when I thought that the Canucks were about to have a chance to become good, they pull themselves back in!


It isn't terrible, but I don't see the need to give up the 9th overall pick just to get out of these deals, when it is looking like a non-contending team anyway.

[Barca]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Dickinson might be decent defensively though has 4th line output. Podkolzin has never played in the league, and Pearson us a meh complimentary player that can shoot.

I'm supposed to believe because of the word of a ra ra optimist that that trio is a playoff third line? Alright.

At least if you said top six i wouldn't dispute that. But the Canucks bottom six looks to continue to be a weak point.

At least its not as bad as the Oilers!

I don't know how you can look at

Roussel - Sutter - Hawryluk

and say

Pearson - Dickinson - Podkolzin

the bottom 6 continues to be a weak point.

[Barca]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

True, but they don’t have the cap to improve with a decent defensive dman to anchor the team.


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lots of interest in Schmidt and Holtby and a Virtanen buyout on Monday.

apparently we're interested in McCabe.

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Athletic trade grades are in and they're exactly what you'd expect:





... Yup. Also some fun stats from Dom:


... That's third last NHL-wide. Holy God.

More importantly what is their record of getting it right with their grades, awesome to speculate and predict this will suck for Vancouver, also might work out in the Canucks favour, regardless of what side the majority is on, it sometimes doesn't work out the way the the "experts" think.
All this talk of Vancouver having garbage defense, do the flames finish better than them?

[chummer]

Originally Posted by Barca

ok? they were also bitching when we traded for JT Miller. who cares about their opinion?

Do you blindly defend everything Canucks?

This was a brutal trade for them but at least you have 7 years to admit it.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I think the Canucks got better today... but if they just would have waited one more season!!


Whew! Just when I thought that the Canucks were about to have a chance to become good, they pull themselves back in!


It isn't terrible, but I don't see the need to give up the 9th overall pick just to get out of these deals, when it is looking like a non-contending team anyway.

Precisely my friend.

Waiting would've paid off massively for them. And they only had to wait one year to gain flexibility, options, and the ability to extend their guys without sacrifice.

Instead they nuke themselves with dead cap long term just to get Garland in there right away. Despite not being in a position to compete tomorrow or anything.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Barca

lots of interest in Schmidt and Holtby and a Virtanen buyout on Monday.

apparently we're interested in McCabe.

I doubt anyone takes Schmidt or Holtby without retention or a bad contract attached.


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[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Barca

I think playing in a hockey mad market with good players around him is a recipe for a bounce back...

And I think I am getting sexier as I creep ever closer to 50.

I also think that by week-two of the 2021 hockey season you will once again be curiously, bafflingly absent from these parts.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Barca

I don't know how you can look at

Roussel - Sutter - Hawryluk

and say

Pearson - Dickinson - Podkolzin

the bottom 6 continues to be a weak point.

Oh I can look at it and call it a weak point,

Seven days a week and twice on Sunday.