07-21-2021, 08:04 PM
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#81
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Lifetime Suspension
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Pitlick + Gio for Monahan!
I miss Gio.
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07-22-2021, 05:51 AM
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#82
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Pitlick trade is set to be announced per Friedman. Only question is to who...
https://twitter.com/user/status/1418151337452318720
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07-22-2021, 06:32 AM
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#83
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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What am I missing on this guy? He seems like a 4th line player that makes a $1.7 million. Think flames or flyers for that matter could find a cheaper alternative, considering they would have to give something up to get him. I rather the flames just put in a young kid from farm and see how he does.
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07-22-2021, 06:44 AM
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#84
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Would not be at all surprised if this costs us a second rounder, do we not have anybody in Stockton who can fill this role, if not why not. This team drives me nuts.
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07-22-2021, 06:46 AM
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#85
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Britflamesfan
Would not be at all surprised if this costs us a second rounder, do we not have anybody in Stockton who can fill this role, if not why not. This team drives me nuts.
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Pitlick is a depth player type of a guy, Flames should not be sending a 2nd for this type of a player...…
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07-22-2021, 06:52 AM
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#86
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Moscow
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If Seattle retains salary, and Calgary is only giving up a very late draft pick, I guess I might not hate it. But why would Seattle do that?
Could it be part of a larger hockey trade?
At the end of the day, I hope he's going somewhere other than Calgary.
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07-22-2021, 06:54 AM
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#87
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Finland
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I have a couple of friends who are Philly-fans, and they're in fact hoping to get Pitlick back, so... I can see him eating SH-TOI and from what I know of him, he's at least trying every shift, has a lot of energy etc., so I think that he would be an improvement over Simon/Leivo/Nordström (which isn't that difficult). But at what price? I wouldn't trade higher pick than a-third-rounder we got from EDM, what would also stink.
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07-22-2021, 07:16 AM
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#88
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Franchise Player
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Please, anywhere but Calgary. No more spending assets for garbage players.
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07-22-2021, 07:24 AM
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#89
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
Please, anywhere but Calgary. No more spending assets for garbage players.
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Exactly. Why not focus on bigger deals to shake up the core first with cap flexibility.. that is what is needed.
I guarantee there will be guys like Pitlick available in Free Agency later this off-season. Or you know, God forbid we give a guy from the farm like Gawdin a chance.
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07-22-2021, 07:44 AM
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#90
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Last edited by Toonage; 07-22-2021 at 07:47 AM.
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07-22-2021, 08:14 AM
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#91
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Britflamesfan
Would not be at all surprised if this costs us a second rounder, do we not have anybody in Stockton who can fill this role, if not why not. This team drives me nuts.
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Maybe the new President?
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07-22-2021, 08:45 AM
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#92
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
Would make sense and is totally in keeping with Treliving’s
MO of burning picks for pieces that ultimately don’t help the team in any meaningful way.
3rd for Pitlick.
3rd for Gustafsson.
4th for Forbort.
4th for Fantenberg.
3rd for Smith.
2nd for Lazar.
2nd for Elliott.
1st, 2nd, 2nd for Hamonic.
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I know Treliving gets a lot of flack for the above, but you also need to include trades which brought picks in. At the end of the day I don't think it is that bad. The only one that stands out is the Haminoc one.
2nd, 3rd for Glencross
2nd for Baertschi
2nd, 4th for Hudler
2nd for Russell
6th for David Jones
7th for Kanzig (only reason I added this is because Wolf was selected)
3rd for Neal
4th for Frolik
extra two 3rd for trading back in the Zary draft
3rd for Rittich
2nd for Bennett
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07-22-2021, 08:54 AM
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#93
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Robbob
I know Treliving gets a lot of flack for the above, but you also need to include trades which brought picks in. At the end of the day I don't think it is that bad. The only one that stands out is the Haminoc one.
2nd, 3rd for Glencross
2nd for Baertschi
2nd, 4th for Hudler
2nd for Russell
6th for David Jones
7th for Kanzig (only reason I added this is because Wolf was selected)
3rd for Neal
4th for Frolik
extra two 3rd for trading back in the Zary draft
3rd for Rittich
2nd for Bennett
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Having these good trades (except that Bennett trade, awful) to combat the bad trades doesn't make Treliving a good GM though.
Treliving's best work was definitely in those first few years though where he flipped Russell/Hudler/Glencross. The Flames should have still been doing those types of trades in recent years. Like last year when the Flames were battling for a playoff spot just like they were when we traded Glencross - we should have traded pending UFA TJ Brodie. Instead of making a smart trade like he did with Glencross, Treliving spent a 3rd and a 4th on irrelevant spare parts. When we should have walked away with an additional 1st, we ended up short a 3rd and a 4th.
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07-22-2021, 09:21 AM
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#94
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
Having these good trades (except that Bennett trade, awful) to combat the bad trades doesn't make Treliving a good GM though.
Treliving's best work was definitely in those first few years though where he flipped Russell/Hudler/Glencross. The Flames should have still been doing those types of trades in recent years. Like last year when the Flames were battling for a playoff spot just like they were when we traded Glencross - we should have traded pending UFA TJ Brodie. Instead of making a smart trade like he did with Glencross, Treliving spent a 3rd and a 4th on irrelevant spare parts. When we should have walked away with an additional 1st, we ended up short a 3rd and a 4th.
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The Flames are trying to compete and were in a playoff spot. No GM is selling off the team in that situation.
You have to try to win- you don’t just sell off UFA’s every season
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07-22-2021, 09:22 AM
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#95
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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I hate this if it means Ruzika doesn't get the spot on the 4th line
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07-22-2021, 09:24 AM
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#96
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by Moneyhands23
I hate this if it means Ruzika doesn't get the spot on the 4th line
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If he’s the best option, he will be there.
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07-22-2021, 09:31 AM
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#97
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by keenan87
Exactly. Why not focus on bigger deals to shake up the core first with cap flexibility.. that is what is needed.
I guarantee there will be guys like Pitlick available in Free Agency later this off-season. Or you know, God forbid we give a guy from the farm like Gawdin a chance.
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Why do people think it's not possible to do both.
Just because the Flames trade for Pitlick doesn't mean Tree also can't work on larger moves at the same time.
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07-22-2021, 09:35 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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Brad let a better version of Pitlick in Hathaway walk because he didn’t value what he brought. He also waived him like 4 times
Now he wants to give a good pick for a worse player to do the same role for a bigger payday. Pitlick is a fourth liner set to make 2.2 million for his 5th team
There is no defending this move
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07-22-2021, 09:38 AM
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#99
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by bax
The Flames are trying to compete and were in a playoff spot. No GM is selling off the team in that situation.
You have to try to win- you don’t just sell off UFA’s every season
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The mindset shift between 2014/2015 and 2019/2020 is completely unjustified though. It’s the same quality of team, same ability to compete. Still a bubble team, and they should have been acting that way.
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07-22-2021, 09:39 AM
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#100
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bax
The Flames are trying to compete and were in a playoff spot. No GM is selling off the team in that situation.
You have to try to win- you don’t just sell off UFA’s every season
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Also, didn’t he try to trade Brodie? For Kadri?
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