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Old 07-15-2021, 09:21 PM   #201
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If he makes it to UFA, offer Landeskog 7 x $6.5m AAV and if he signs start weighing Gaudreau/Tkachuk extensions against Gaudreau/Tkachuk trade returns.

In the end you have an extended Gaudreau or Tkachuk and Landeskog as your top two LWs and a huge return from trading the other.
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Old 07-15-2021, 09:22 PM   #202
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If he makes it to UFA, offer Landeskog 7 x $6.5m AAV and if he signs start weighing Gaudreau/Tkachuk extensions against Gaudreau/Tkachuk trade returns.

In the end you have an extended Gaudreau or Tkachuk and Landeskog as your top two LWs and a huge return from trading the other.
Not the worst plan by far, I just think you will need another 1 to 1.5 million to get Landeskog here.
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Old 07-15-2021, 09:23 PM   #203
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Landeskog is going to want more than $6.5
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Old 07-15-2021, 09:23 PM   #204
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Landeskog is going to want more than $6.5
7x7 would be my guess, at the least

and I would gladly pay it
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Old 07-15-2021, 09:23 PM   #205
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IMO he's worth it

If the rumors of what Colorado are offering are true, I'd be happy to offer more. I'd easily offer 6yr x $7 or 7yr x $6 .25 for Landeskog

The rumored deals he's turned down from Colorado are:

4yr x $6.5
5yr x $7
8yr x $5.125

Again, IMO he'd be the best option to be the next captain on this roster, and if he makes it to free agency hes the best guy available with the most ~*intangibles*~
IMO, there is no way you get him for that. If he goes to market, I expect he'll get more like 7 x $7.75 or 6 x $8. Maybe more.
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Bring Landeskog and Toews. Something happening in Chicago. So may be Toews wants out.

Johnny-Toews-Landeskog
Tkachuk-Lindholm-Mangi
Dube-Backlund-Pelletier

I'm just dreaming.
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Bring Landeskog and Toews. Something happening in Chicago. So may be Toews wants out.

Johnny-Toews-Landeskog
Tkachuk-Lindholm-Mangi
Dube-Backlund-Pelletier

I'm just dreaming.
Now that would be the dream

Lose our captain, gain two of the best captains from around the league
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Old 07-15-2021, 09:32 PM   #208
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Bring Landeskog and Toews. Something happening in Chicago. So may be Toews wants out.

Johnny-Toews-Landeskog
Tkachuk-Lindholm-Mangi
Dube-Backlund-Pelletier

I'm just dreaming.
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You want to pay 10.5 for Toews?
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Old 07-15-2021, 09:47 PM   #210
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IMO, there is no way you get him for that. If he goes to market, I expect he'll get more like 7 x $7.75 or 6 x $8. Maybe more.
I agree, if anything I'm a little shocked those are the best offers from Colorado

I'd happily offer Landeskog what hes worth. I want all the Swedes. It's too bad it would take assets to acquire Filip Forsberg because I dream of him in a Flames uniform
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I agree, if anything I'm a little shocked those are the best offers from Colorado

I'd happily offer Landeskog what hes worth. I want all the Swedes. It's too bad it would take assets to acquire Filip Forsberg because I dream of him in a Flames uniform
I argued the other day that he wasn't worth a big money term, and I feel like that is the an industry perspective in some quarters, too. He will probably get 50m from someone, of course.

ETA: The other obvious thing about the negotiations from Colorado's perspective is MacKinnon. You must keep Landeskog s AAV as low as possible because MacKinnon will carry a healthy premium.
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You want to pay 10.5 for Toews?
A Toews that didn't play at all last year too
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A Toews that didn't play at all last year too
I heard possibly a long hauler as well.
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You want to pay 10.5 for Toews?
No. Unless they took Lucic. Maybe they’d retain a bit? Toews at 8 starts to look more appealing.

Oh he only has 2 years left? I’m sure they’d retain if he wanted out of there.
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Old 07-15-2021, 10:18 PM   #215
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Landeskog is the exact type of player this team needs. Two way, leader, hits, hard to play against. He is the type of guy that would thrive under Sutter.
This is going back a ways, but he would be a modern Doug Risebrough (who was also 29 when he joined the Flames).

The problem is that type of player remains productive for maybe 2-3 more years. And if he doesn’t push you into being a contender in that span, he becomes a very expensive character guy.
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Old 07-15-2021, 10:21 PM   #216
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This is going back a ways, but he would be a modern Doug Risebrough (who was also 29 when he joined the Flames).

The problem is that type of player remains productive for maybe 2-3 more years. And if he doesn’t push you into being a contender in that span, he becomes a very expensive character guy.
...and then a Stanley Cup winning Assistant Coach...?

(Just have to make sure to jettison him before he becomes Coach and/or GM, is all... )
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Old 07-15-2021, 11:59 PM   #217
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St Louis is rumored to be all in on Landeskog, they currently have $17M in cap space + $7.5M in Tarasenko if they can get rid of that contract. They do have some UFA's + RFA's to take care of, but they have more then enough to make a significant push for Landeskog. Higher then what the Flames could/should offer.
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Old 07-16-2021, 12:27 AM   #218
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Our only hope in regards to Landeskog is the fact that Calgary has the largest Swedish population in NA, because of our hockey team! We have to get our Swedes to sell him on coming here!
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Our only hope in regards to Landeskog is the fact that Calgary has the largest Swedish population in NA, because of our hockey team! We have to get our Swedes to sell him on coming here!
Maybe it would help if Håkan Loob built a Landeskog trap and baited it with lingonberries.
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