06-30-2021, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by timun
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Obviously I don't know the particulars of the circumstances behind this decision, but this seems absolutely NUTS to me. Why the hell would the DA offer the promise to not charge him based on the testimony he was going to give in the deposition, if the testimony in the deposition was going to be regarding sexual assault allegations against him?!?! The DA had to have known Cosby was either going to tell the truth and incriminate himself, or lie and perjure himself.
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Or he would have used his 5th amendment right and shut up...
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06-30-2021, 02:30 PM
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#302
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Lifetime Suspension
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Sounds like Cosby agreed to talk if he would not be charged criminally, any testimony would be used in a potential civil suit. If true then the judge got this one right, but why Cosby was given such a deal in the first place is unconscionable.
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06-30-2021, 02:31 PM
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#303
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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
Again, pretty much the only reason Cosby served almost three years in prison and had to attend multiple criminal trials while we now know who he truly is.
So, I'm not sure if he's a ####ty person (I mean he is a lawyer  ) or much of anything else about him or his career, but I don't fault him too much here. |
I think Castor gave him the deal originally which is why he is free now. Steele was the one that actually prosecuted him.
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06-30-2021, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by habernac
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I don’t think him going free is about to get those royalty cheques flowing again.
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06-30-2021, 02:36 PM
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#305
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Originally Posted by Galakanokis
I think Castor gave him the deal originally which is why he is free now. Steele was the one that actually prosecuted him.
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Castor gave him the deal originally for the deposition.
Over a decade later the deposition lead to his arrest, conviction and three years in jail.
Ergo, I believe it's just as fair to say that Castor lead to his three years in jail.
Without the immunity, Cosby doesn't speak. Future prosecutors have nothing. No charges, no trial, no jail.
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06-30-2021, 02:45 PM
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Norm!
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How much is he going to get in a civil lawsuit?
Will the victims sue him as well?
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06-30-2021, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
Or he would have used his 5th amendment right and shut up...
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Right, but if you make the promise that you can't use any of the testimony to indict him, what difference does it make? Why bother getting the testimony if you can't use it?
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06-30-2021, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
Castor gave him the deal originally for the deposition.
Over a decade later the deposition lead to his arrest, conviction and three years in jail.
Ergo, I believe it's just as fair to say that Castor lead to his three years in jail.
Without the immunity, Cosby doesn't speak. Future prosecutors have nothing. No charges, no trial, no jail.
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Ah yeah, I see where you are coming from.
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06-30-2021, 02:46 PM
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#309
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Originally Posted by timun
Right, but if you make the promise that you can't use any of the testimony to indict him, what difference does it make? Why bother getting the testimony if you can't use it?
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It was for the future civil case. At least that's what Castor has said and it does seem to make some sense on the surface but I'm not sure that's how I would want a DA to operate. But very arguably it resulted in a settlement for the victim (of 3.5M). Hardly justice, but better than nothing...maybe.
Last edited by Oling_Roachinen; 06-30-2021 at 02:55 PM.
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06-30-2021, 02:50 PM
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As we’re being good about changing thread titles these days, any chance we shift this to “Bill Cosby Did That ####”?
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06-30-2021, 02:55 PM
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#311
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Originally Posted by zamler
How is this the same scenario? I don't get it.
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Horribly undeserved non-prosecution deal for a dangerous sex offender.
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In July 2006, the FBI began its own investigation of Epstein, nicknamed "Operation Leap Year".[111] It resulted in a 53-page indictment in June 2007.[70] Alexander Acosta, then the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, agreed to a plea deal, which Alan Dershowitz helped to negotiate,[112] to grant immunity from all federal criminal charges to Epstein, along with four named co-conspirators and any unnamed "potential co-conspirators". According to the Miami Herald, the non-prosecution agreement "essentially shut down an ongoing FBI probe into whether there were more victims and other powerful people who took part in Epstein's sex crimes". At the time, this halted the investigation and sealed the indictment. The Miami Herald said: "Acosta agreed, despite a federal law to the contrary, that the deal would be kept from the victims."[10]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffre..._criminal_case
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Originally Posted by Azure
Typical dumb take.
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06-30-2021, 03:01 PM
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#312
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Originally Posted by TorqueDog
JFC, it's like Epstein all over again.
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Originally Posted by zamler
How is this the same scenario? I don't get it.
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Pretty simple really, Bill Cosby didn't kill himself.
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06-30-2021, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
A verbal deal that isn't written down anywhere? has the previous prosecutor just bought a large house and paid off all his outstanding debt?
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I can’t figure out how a verbal deal is even enforceable.
The Statute of Frauds generally requires contracts having a term of one year or longer to be in writing.
Guess Cosby’s attorneys argued that some exception to the SOF (there are a few) applied?
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07-01-2021, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz
Pretty simple really, Bill Cosby didn't kill himself.
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Nor did Epstein 
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07-01-2021, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by HockeyIlliterate
I can’t figure out how a verbal deal is even enforceable.
The Statute of Frauds generally requires contracts having a term of one year or longer to be in writing.
Guess Cosby’s attorneys argued that some exception to the SOF (there are a few) applied?
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I think if a person is compelled to testify by way of promising non-prosecution in a scenario they would not otherwise testify willingly, it doesn't matter if it was written down or not, to then prosecute them after they spill the beans is a violation of their 5th Amendment right. There were likely enough people with the knowledge of what went on to corroborate it.
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Originally Posted by Azure
Typical dumb take.
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07-03-2021, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Nor did Epstein |
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07-05-2021, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by aaronck
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What a ####ing sack of ####
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07-05-2021, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronck
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I'm not sure he understands that in the current climate 'Rape Jokes' are going to go over like a fart in church.
Furthermore...who is he thinking is going to buy these tickets?
He is in his 80s, he cashed in his 'Get Out of Jail Free' card...now is the time to become a hermit.
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07-05-2021, 12:30 PM
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You think his ego will let him fade? He feels more emboldened than ever, he might even get back into raping he feels so invincible.
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