2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[1qqaaz]

Some suggestions that fans of other teams are suggesting:

OTT: #10 + Batherson and some other stuff for Matthew Tkachuk

TOR: Tkachuk and Andrew Mangiapane for Marner, Tkachuk and Lindholm for Marner, Mikheyev, 2nd

VAN: 9th overall + Podkolzin for Tkachuk

STL: Kyrou and Thomas for Matthew Tkachuk

BUF: Reinhart and 1st overall for Tkachuk and 12th overall, Tkachuk +++ for Eichel

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Perhaps you can explain to me why a player with one season above 61 points and a career 0.33 playoff PPG should be considered a surefire, undisputed 1st line winger? Nevermind the upcoming contract situation that almost surely mitigates his value as a trade commodity.

He plays on the second line of a bubble team and puts up second line numbers. This isn't as outlandish as you make it sound.

LOL

Since entering into the NHL Matthew Tkachuk is 6th in the entire league in scoring among LW's. Only guys ahead of him are named Marchand, Panarin, Ovechkin, Huberdeau and Gaudreau.

Second line numbers....good one.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Sure you can. The Blues can make deals with other teams to offload salary.

These days, most trades are cap in and cap out.


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[Jiggy_12]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Apparently Shane O'Brien is saying Tkachuk might want out of Calgary?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1407133587795853313

https://twitter.com/ShaneOBrien55

I would too.

[Major Major]

Meh, there's been lots of times over the last 15 years that I thought the flames were setting the table to become a contender. Where they went out and got that last piece and I was sure success was right around the corner. I'm sure that's exactly how the organisation has felt all this time and the gravy went to all of our thighs. Give me Darryl and a cast of misfits, play hard, see what happens. Tkachuk's ego might be an asset on the right team, but for us it's bloat that will soon work it's way to our cap.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

These days, most trades are cap in and cap out.


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Except for JT Miller who got traded twice for basically no cap hit either time.

[Monahammer]

Holtz + 4... that is a pretty good offer if we have rebuild on the table.

Eichel package if not.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Holtz + 4... that is a pretty good offer if we have rebuild on the table.

Eichel package if not.

Flames could take that deal and the cap savings to take a run at Hall or Nuge in hopes of remaining competitive.

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Apparently Shane O'Brien is saying Tkachuk might want out of Calgary?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1407133587795853313

https://twitter.com/ShaneOBrien55

This wouldn't shock me in the least.

[SuperMatt18]

I still think a three team deal could make sense:

Calgary Receives: Eichel + Reinhart

Columbus Receives: Monahan

Buffalo Receives:
- Tkachuk
- Calgary 2021 1st (12th overall)
- Florida 2022 2nd (via Calgary)

- Toronto 2021 1st (25th overall via Columbus)
- Tampa Bay 2022 3rd (via Columbus)

That feels like it’s pretty fair all around and I feel like it’s something Buffalo could sell to the fanbase.

Sure you lose Eichel and Reinhart but Tkachuk, 2 1sts, a 2nd, and a 3rd feel like pretty good return. You get a young star and 4 high picks.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

For better or for worse, Gaudreau-Monahan-Ritchie (and before you ask, I think two of those three would be second line players on a championship team as well, based on their recent play, and the other doesn't belong in the NHL at all).

That wasn’t the first line and it wasn’t even a line at all for over half a season.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Nelson

I disagree. Dom L and Craig Custance wrote an article entitled “Top 100 NHL Players” in The Athletic on January 11th, 2021. This ranking was based heavily on a metric called Game Score Value Added. Anyways, Thomas and Kyrou were not listed. Matthew Tkachuk was 29th.

That would be before Kyrou put up 14 EVG 32EVP in 14:25 (only 3 PPA's, so 35pts total).

Tkachuk: 16G (12EVG) 43P (28EVP) in 18:09.

Thomas had a down year with injuries, but has shown lots of promise. Both are coming off their ELCs and looking at bridge deals.

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Except for JT Miller who got traded twice for basically no cap hit either time.

He did say 'most'. Nate Schmidt, Paul Stastny, etc. Teams with cap space can take advantage of quality cap dumps.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Except for JT Miller who got traded twice for basically no cap hit either time.

The operative word being “most “.

And that was some years ago, pre-pandemic.


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[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Holtz + 4... that is a pretty good offer if we have rebuild on the table.

Eichel package if not.

I'd do that trade all day.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

The operative word being “most “.

And that was some years ago, pre-pandemic.


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Fact is Ottawa or New Jersey could easily be in the market for Tkachuk and could trade him without needing to send the same amount of cap (or any) back

[Barca]

Is he friends with Quinn or was that Brady?

He wants to be a Blues, the Canucks jersey is blue... is see a connection.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Barca

Is he friends with Quinn or was that Brady?

He wants to be a Blues, the Canucks jersey is blue... is see a connection.

There was an easier way for the Canucks to get Tkachuk back in 2016.

[Barca]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

There was an easier way for the Canucks to get Tkachuk back in 2016.

JB was playing the long game.. We get Olli and Tkachuk lol

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Barca

JB was playing the long game.. We get Olli and Tkachuk lol

Yay Olli!! Well that makes it all worth it.

I suppose it’s like having Monahan and Lindholm and Shinkaruk and Lazar and Poirier and Rychel and Klimchuk. You want to provide Horvat?

[flamesgod]

Tkachuk, Backlund, Monahan for O’Reilly, Tarasenko, Thomas