2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I would take Thomas+Kyrou+2021 1st.

You won’t get that, too much cheap and good stuff.

The Flames will need to take cap back, likely Tarasenko and another player.


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[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

You won’t get that, too much cheap and good stuff.

The Flames will need to take cap back, likely Tarasenko and another player.


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Tarasenko+Thomas/Kyrou sure feels like Voracek+Frost/Patrick discussed for Gaudreau last year. Just a bad deal and luckily the Flames will have more than one team to deal with when it comes to a Tkachuk trade

[blender]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

You wouldn't swap rosters with Vancouver right now?

No chance.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

You won’t get that, too much cheap and good stuff.

The Flames will need to take cap back, likely Tarasenko and another player.


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Then the Blues are not getting Tkachuk, that simple.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Then the Blues are not getting Tkachuk, that simple.

Maybe.

But you can’t trade an expensive player two years from UFA without taking cap back.


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[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Maybe.

But you can’t trade an expensive player two years from UFA without taking cap back.


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You could trade him to Ottawa without taking much cap back.

[Stanley]

Seeing him play with his bro would actually be a thing of beauty.

[Poe969]

It's just convincing the sens to make a deal and try to get some of their young assets back. They would make great trade partners for Tkachuk, do they have a lot of players they need to protect or are most of them too young?

[MrMike]

If both Gaudreau and Tkachuk want out, I really don’t see a way that we aren’t in for a rebuild. I can’t see any way we don’t lose the best player in either part of those deals.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Maybe.

But you can’t trade an expensive player two years from UFA without taking cap back.


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Sure you can. The Blues can make deals with other teams to offload salary.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by MrMike

If both Gaudreau and Tkachuk want out, I really don’t see a way that we aren’t in for a rebuild. I can’t see any way we don’t lose the best player in either part of those deals.

Where is this Gaudreau wants out bs coming from? The guy literally just said a month ago he wants to stay.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Poe969

It's just convincing the sens to make a deal and try to get some of their young assets back. They would make great trade partners for Tkachuk, do they have a lot of players they need to protect or are most of them too young?

I actually think a team only needs one Tkachuk in their top 6. They are basically the same player and both are slow.

[1qqaaz]

Apparently Shane O'Brien is saying Tkachuk might want out of Calgary?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1407133587795853313

https://twitter.com/ShaneOBrien55

[Nelson]

If the Flames are trading Tkachuk to the Blues, they’d better offer Thomas and Kyrou. Tkachuk is the most valuable piece of the three by quite a bit.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Nelson

If the Flames are trading Tkachuk to the Blues, they’d better offer Thomas and Kyrou. Tkachuk is the most valuable piece of the three by quite a bit.

Two years ago, maybe. How many disgruntled 2nd line wingers are coming up on a $9 million pay day?

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I dont think we should give a single #### about where Matt wants to play if he's asking for a trade. He can figure that out with his next team. We should trade him for the best package possible. We owe him nothing.

I don't disagree with the premise, but MT's trade value is almost certainly higher to a team that thinks can sign him.

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Tarasenko+Thomas/Kyrou sure feels like Voracek+Frost/Patrick discussed for Gaudreau last year. Just a bad deal and luckily the Flames will have more than one team to deal with when it comes to a Tkachuk trade

Thomas/Kyrou are more proven than Frost/Patrick (which isn't to say there aren't still question marks with all of them).

Healthy Tarasenko is better than Voracek based on being a sniper and contract terms...of course Tkachuk holds more trade value than Johnny right now (though maybe not far off Johnny 1 year ago?)

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

In the same radio segment, O'Brien states that he's heard Tarasenko wants out.

There's a difference between wants out and wants Calgary. Obviously we have no idea what his motivations are either way.

[bax]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Two years ago, maybe. How many disgruntled 2nd line wingers are coming up on a $9 million pay day?

In no world is Tkachuk a second line winger. This board sometimes

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Two years ago, maybe.

I disagree. Dom L and Craig Custance wrote an article entitled “Top 100 NHL Players” in The Athletic on January 11th, 2021. This ranking was based heavily on a metric called Game Score Value Added. Anyways, Thomas and Kyrou were not listed. Matthew Tkachuk was 29th.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by bax

In no world is Tkachuk a second line winger. This board sometimes

Boy, the Flames sure aren't doing so hot for a team with so many amazing, valuable players who love being here.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Boy, the Flames sure aren't doing so hot for a team with so many amazing, valuable players who love being here.

This comment probably sounded better in your head.