06-06-2021, 11:53 AM
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#181
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
He can think all he wants, but he also has to have his expectations in alignment with what the market will bare. He can do more damage coming in high than being realistic in his ask. His agent will have to do some serious comparison work to find that sweet spot. I wish him luck, but I don't see him getting anything more than what Lindholm got. He should be tickled with getting 5x$4.5-4.75 IMO.
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Bear not bare.
He’s taken it on the chin his last contract. He’s going to have to make hay on this contract. So he’s going to need to negotiate hard.
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06-06-2021, 12:19 PM
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#182
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Franchise Player
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Mangi got what he deserved last contract. He'll get what he deserves this contract. You don't get paid for PPG 5-on-5, you get paid for what you bring to the team. That will be what Treliving is going to negotiate from. So Mangi better have some really good comparables.
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06-06-2021, 12:23 PM
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#183
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
Mangi got what he deserved last contract. He'll get what he deserves this contract. You don't get paid for PPG 5-on-5, you get paid for what you bring to the team. That will be what Treliving is going to negotiate from. So Mangi better have some really good comparables.
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I’ve shown the comparables already. Treliving also has to be concerned about arbitration.
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06-06-2021, 12:52 PM
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#184
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
And therefore he’s going to be thinking this is his biggest contract.
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He has two years of RFA left though right? With a flat cap, if signing a monster contract is his goal he wont be doing it in this deal.
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06-06-2021, 12:55 PM
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#185
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
He has two years of RFA left though right? With a flat cap, if signing a monster contract is his goal he wont be doing it in this deal.
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He does, but if people think these are his prime years, he needs to cash in.
I don’t see a two year deal. It’s either a one year deal lout of arb or he signs a 5 year deal.
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06-06-2021, 12:58 PM
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#186
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Mangiapane only has one RFA year after this contract ends, so a one-year deal would take him directly to UFA.
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06-06-2021, 01:22 PM
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#187
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Mangiapane only has one RFA year after this contract ends, so a one-year deal would take him directly to UFA.
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If he is in a Mark Stone position and is a UFA after the 22/23 season, I am not sure why he would sign anything longer than one year.
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06-06-2021, 01:30 PM
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#188
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
If he is in a Mark Stone position and is a UFA after the 22/23 season, I am not sure why he would sign anything longer than one year.
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Security?
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06-06-2021, 01:49 PM
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#189
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 161 St. - Yankee Stadium
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Sabres gonna give him 6 x 6. Lots of cap space with Eichel off the books.
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06-06-2021, 02:07 PM
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#190
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#1 Goaltender
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Somehow, someway, a number of Flames fans will still try to find a way to discredit Mangiapane and claim he's not top 6 caliber.
Unfortunately, they'd continue to be dead wrong, because Mangiapane has always been a stud.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1401629004260646915
https://twitter.com/user/status/1401631982635786244
Very few, if any non-ELC players have out-performed their contracts the last 2 years more than Mangiapane.
Lock. Him. Up.
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06-06-2021, 02:16 PM
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#192
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All I can get
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Trade him!
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06-06-2021, 02:22 PM
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#193
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
He can think all he wants, but he also has to have his expectations in alignment with what the market will bare. He can do more damage coming in high than being realistic in his ask. His agent will have to do some serious comparison work to find that sweet spot. I wish him luck, but I don't see him getting anything more than what Lindholm got. He should be tickled with getting 5x$4.5-4.75 IMO.
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Im pretty sure that is Rich Winter. 
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06-06-2021, 02:29 PM
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#194
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Franchise Player
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Winter? Crap. I fully expect this to drag out for a while and no one happy with the outcome. I'm sure Winter will trot out the MVP award from this tournament, but you don't get paid for playing in a IIHF tournament. This is going to be painful to watch.
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06-06-2021, 02:52 PM
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#195
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Comparables - I’m sure they will point to Anderson, White, Tuch, Burakovsky, etc.
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06-06-2021, 02:58 PM
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#196
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Comparables - I’m sure they will point to Anderson, White, Tuch, Burakovsky, etc.
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That's a guy this club could use.
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06-06-2021, 02:59 PM
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#197
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
That's a guy this club could use.
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Yup, best third liner in the POs.
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06-06-2021, 03:02 PM
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#198
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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8 years, $48 million.
The number is only going up.
I have decided I am going to buy a Mangiapane jersey.
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06-06-2021, 03:06 PM
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#199
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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It will be interesting to see what he decides to do this summer. Will he try to capitalize on the success he had at the World Championships and look for an extension before Gaudreau and Tkachuk get theirs done? Or, does he decide to play out the final year of his contract hoping that his confidence will increase and he'll capitalize on playing a full 82 game season to cash in?
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06-06-2021, 03:09 PM
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#200
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Comparables - I’m sure they will point to Anderson, White, Tuch, Burakovsky, etc.
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Tuch - signed a 7 year deal worth 4.75M AAV after he scored 37 points in 72 games (11 Even Strength Goals, 27 even strength points) when he was 21 years old (buying 3 UFA years, with a modified NTC during those 3 years)
White - signed a 6 year deal worth 4.75M AAV after he scored 41 points in in 71 games (9 even strength goals, 33 even strength points) when he was 22 years old (buying 2 UFA years)
Andrew Mangiapane will only have 1 RFA year after his current deal. Andrew Mangiapane at $6M is not a crazy idea. I hope we get him for south of that of course, but he also has some power as he can force a 1 year deal and walk to free agency. He just put up 32 points in 56 games (15 even strength goals, 26 even strength points). I imagine he is going to absolutely pop-off next season.
Last edited by ComixZone; 06-06-2021 at 03:14 PM.
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