06-02-2021, 08:23 PM
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#181
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Referee
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
I've watched it a few times and it doesn't look like a hit to the head, and it certainly wasn't interference... was it charging? He doesn't stride into it but I'm guessing that he was skating pretty hard trying to get back?
EDIT: He definitely does not leave his feet when contact is made. There is no penalty for leaving your feet after contact; that's called physics (I frankly can't believe I have to explain that to anyone who watches hockey enough to post on a hockey fan site).
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Oh give me a break.
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06-02-2021, 08:24 PM
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#182
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
The head might have been involved but from the angle they showed, it wasn't the principal point of contact.
The thing is that the angle they showed didn't show Scheifele until right before the hit.
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What point are you trying to make?
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06-02-2021, 08:25 PM
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#183
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Franchise Player
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Suspend him for the series. None of this one game/two game crap. I still remember Maurice making it seem that Tkachuk's hit was intentional. Let's see how he plays this.
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06-02-2021, 08:25 PM
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#184
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Originally Posted by TheSquatch
It's charging, more than that, it's intent to injure at a time when the game is out of hand, he could stop that goal with his stick, not a body check.
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That’s even more of the problem. No he wasn’t there in time to get a stick on it. Late hit, intent to injure
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06-02-2021, 08:25 PM
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#185
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First Line Centre
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Bye Scheifele.
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06-02-2021, 08:25 PM
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#186
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Originally Posted by DazzlinDino
What point are you trying to make?
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He's just trying to be his regular contrarian self and add nothing to the discussion.
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06-02-2021, 08:25 PM
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#187
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Franchise Player
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If he was trying to stop the goal would he not go for the stick and puck?
He 100% wanted to hurt him. Maybe to not that extent but he wanted to lay him out!
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06-02-2021, 08:25 PM
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#188
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by MRCboicgy
Oh give me a break.
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Go ahead and try to explain where I'm wrong there... spoiler: you can't. The only thing it could possibly be is charging, based on the replays that were shown on the broadcast. And that's not clear, because we can't see where Scheifele stops skating or how fast he's cruising into the hit.
If there's another angle that shows something different, fine, but you'll have to post it.
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Originally Posted by MRCboicgy
He's just trying to be his regular contrarian self and add nothing to the discussion.
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Talking about "adding nothing to the discussion", I'm debating the hit, you're taking personal shots at me. Yet I'm confident nothing will be done about it, as usual.
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06-02-2021, 08:25 PM
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#189
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Franchise Player
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It was a hit at a time when the play was most definitely going to be dead too.
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06-02-2021, 08:25 PM
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#190
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Truculent!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
The head might have been involved but from the angle they showed, it wasn't the principal point of contact.
The thing is that the angle they showed didn't show Scheifele until right before the hit.
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You're not gonna win here. People wanna be outraged.
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06-02-2021, 08:26 PM
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#191
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Franchise Player
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Is there an angle that shows the principle point of contact? If it was a headshot Scheifele is likely in trouble. If it was not he is likely in trouble because that was a hard hit.
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06-02-2021, 08:26 PM
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#192
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
I mean, a hit like that in that situation is essentially just an intent to injure, right?
He didn't care about taking the goal away or playing the puck at all, just tried to hit him in the head as hard as possible, while leaving the ice during.
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This has been annoyingly common these playoffs.
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06-02-2021, 08:26 PM
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#193
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Franchise Player
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Who even knows what the DOPS will call that. Could be 5 games, could be $5K.
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06-02-2021, 08:27 PM
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#194
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Location: Springbank
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I don’t want to be outraged. I just know what I think. It was a dirty hit, with no in game purpose.
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06-02-2021, 08:27 PM
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#195
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Quote:
Originally Posted by agulati
It was a hit at a time when the play was most definitely going to be dead too.
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Yup. Legal or not it was absolutely gutless.
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06-02-2021, 08:28 PM
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#196
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Franchise Player
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It's a charging major after the puck is in the net in the last minute of a game. It's a suspension for sure.
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06-02-2021, 08:29 PM
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#197
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I think he was just close enough that he actually could have made a play on the puck and maybe prevented the goal (albeit unlikely).
Classy by Ehlers - he was right on the spot trying to keep the scrum off Evans and calling for help.
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06-02-2021, 08:29 PM
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#198
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jun 2011
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Most important thing is Evans' health
Second is an appropriate punishment for a terrible hit
Wayyy after that, and I hate that it always comes back to this for me, but that hit was literally the exact Tkachuk on Kassian hit, but sped up about 10x and a possibly sever injury added on. Will the media vilify Scheiflie, say he has to fight whoever asks him, and make him out to be a dirt bag, predatory player?
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06-02-2021, 08:29 PM
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#199
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
I don’t want to be outraged. I just know what I think. It was a dirty hit, with no in game purpose.
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The in-game purpose was that if Evans is a half second slower rounding the net - which Scheifele absolutely cannot tell when he commits to the hit - the puck goes off his stick into the slot, gets picked up by a Jet, and they have a six on four rush the other way with a chance to tie the game.
It's possible he just wanted to hurt the guy, but that play absolutely does have an in-game purpose. Plenty of times a guy tries to wrap it around but can't quite get it far enough out to bring it back into the net.
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06-02-2021, 08:29 PM
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#200
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First Line Centre
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Perhaps Perry can see his way clear to accidentally kneeing someone in the head at full speed again? Would love to see a Jet look like Tavares did a few weeks back right about now.
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