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Old 05-19-2021, 11:19 AM   #41
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Lose in any fashion, they own the 11th-best odds. Win in any fashion, they own the 12th-best odds.
I think technically if they win they get the 13th best odds in the draft lottery because Arizona’s pick is still in the draw but if it wins a redraw occurs.

Lose - have 11th best lottery odds and pick 11th if nothing changes with our pick or anyone ahead of us in the standings

Win - have 13th best lottery odds and pick 12th if nothing changes with our pick or anyone ahead of us in the standings
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Old 05-19-2021, 11:25 AM   #42
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I don't know ...

There was a lot of smoke in the air around moves that didn't happen. They very may not have happened because:

a) ownership didn't approve of the moves
b) ownership agreed that they weren't getting enough for their assets

if that's the case they are very much in the loop as to why there weren't any changes last off season.
And what if we are in the same boat this offseason?

Are you going to dump players for pennies on the dollar?
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Old 05-19-2021, 11:25 AM   #43
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If he's actually resorting to this kind of stuff then the Flames are in worse trouble than we thought. The whole grumpy pants act is getting really old.
What? I love the act, it's the only entertainment we are getting out of this team!
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I hope Mackey goes for 3 fights in a row lol
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Getting the Johnny Hockey treatment. I wonder if they sent the private jet for him. Probably not. Hope he scores, so Scorp can have that long waited release.
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Pretty sure he's been with the team, this whole time. Just needed to be "called up" from the taxi squad. But we should ask Brad about that.
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Any word on who starting goalies are?
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I love how the NHL was just like "#### it, two weekday afternoons for you, it ain't matter anyway" when they rescheduled these games.
Like, were these the original times when they were rescheduled? Or were they re-rescheduled after it became apparent they didn't didn't matter and they wanted to start the playoffs?
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Old 05-19-2021, 11:37 AM   #49
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I love how the NHL was just like "#### it, two weekday afternoons for you, it ain't matter anyway" when they rescheduled these games.
Like, were these the original times when they were rescheduled? Or were they re-rescheduled after it became apparent they didn't didn't matter and they wanted to start the playoffs?
It's a poorly ran league, so nothing surprises me anymore but they probably had these games rescheduled before Calgary was out of it. Hence the North division games for the 4th seed starting tomorrow.
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I think technically if they win they get the 13th best odds in the draft lottery because Arizona’s pick is still in the draw but if it wins a redraw occurs.

Lose - have 11th best lottery odds and pick 11th if nothing changes with our pick or anyone ahead of us in the standings

Win - have 13th best lottery odds and pick 12th if nothing changes with our pick or anyone ahead of us in the standings
An OTL will move them ahead of the Coyotes and a win will move them ahead of both the Coyotes and Blackhawks.


I can't find this year's exact draft lottery odds, but last year, the 11th best odds were 3%, 12th were 2.5%, and 13th were 2%. With Seattle being in the lottery this season, those numbers will change slightly. Plus, the removal of Arizona from the mix will also slightly alter every team's odds. Finishing ahead of or behind Arizona will make a very small difference in the lottery odds, which either won't matter at all --- or will matter a lot.
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It's actually pretty impressive the league got in 56 games for all teams across two countries in a pandemic. Some of you are being too critical IMO. They had an entire team get covid a month ago and still pulled it off.

Calgary and Vancouver are done before their division playoffs start.
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An OTL will move them ahead of the Coyotes and a win will move them ahead of both the Coyotes and Blackhawks.


I can't find this year's exact draft lottery odds, but last year, the 11th best odds were 3%, 12th were 2.5%, and 13th were 2%. With Seattle being in the lottery this season, those numbers will change slightly. Plus, the removal of Arizona from the mix will also slightly alter every team's odds. Finishing ahead of or behind Arizona will make a very small difference in the lottery odds, which either won't matter at all --- or will matter a lot.
http://www.tankathon.com/nhl/pick_odds
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Finally, we can end this misery and look forward to the offseason!
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I love how the NHL was just like "#### it, two weekday afternoons for you, it ain't matter anyway" when they rescheduled these games.
Like, were these the original times when they were rescheduled? Or were they re-rescheduled after it became apparent they didn't didn't matter and they wanted to start the playoffs?
There was no start time assigned to these games when they were first rescheduled. They were just given a date.

If this game would have mattered for playoff positioning, it would almost-certainly have been in prime time because it would have mattered, and Toronto's first game wouldn't have been able to be scheduled yet.
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I'm not sure where they got their numbers from, but it can't be right because Seattle and New Jersey are supposed to have the same odds.

It looks like they just took last year's odds and took 0.5% from the 9th team and gave it to the 16th.
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It's actually pretty impressive the league got in 56 games for all teams across two countries in a pandemic. Some of you are being too critical IMO. They had an entire team get covid a month ago and still pulled it off.

Calgary and Vancouver are done before their division playoffs start.
I agree, the league has been quite resilient through all this. The Flames are probably one of those teams that were more effected by the pandemic just due to everything going on, kind of like a perfect storm where they just fell short.
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LOL, I just clicked it to check it out and then did one run of a simulated lottery.

Results were:
1) Arizona (forfeited pick)
2) Calgary***Basically gets the 1st overall pick due to Arizona's forfeiture.
3) Buffalo
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Just ran it and we picked a goalie at 11. Kill me now.
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