05-15-2021, 08:25 PM
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#41
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Originally Posted by browntrout
If I was a Panthers fan...I would get tickets behind the bench and heckle and call them cheaters every second I could....complete bunch of cheaters
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That will really teach them.
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05-15-2021, 08:26 PM
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#42
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[QUOTE=New Era;7860166But I would pressure the doctors....[/QUOTE]
I am pretty sure that is not even possible.
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05-15-2021, 08:27 PM
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#43
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Originally Posted by New Era
They may claim it's not a duck, but when it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, smells like a duck, and has the DNA of a duck, you would have to think the league is going to figure out it is a duck.
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You have obviously been living in a bubble.
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05-15-2021, 08:29 PM
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#44
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
How are you going to calculate it? Players don't get paid during the playoffs.
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A calculator? You know their cap, you can add it up
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05-15-2021, 08:40 PM
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#45
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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^Quadruple post score!
You know multiquote is a feature, yeah?
As for this debacle, yeah, as soon as Kucherov was practicing this should have been investigated by independent doctors hired by the NHL. The fact that it wasn't seems to be a big shrug to the whole situation because the NHL loves having powerhouse teams and dynasties. Don't tell me the Blues winning was in their marketing plans, especially with no true superstar to pimp from that team.
If Kucherov was healthy 2 months ago, his salary would have counted against the cap because he was able to play in the regular season, and that would have meant there's no chance of acquiring David Savard, and they probably have to lose another player to be cap compliant this year. As it stands, the team has extra high priced forwards that no other team in the league has. That's an unequal playing field, and it's antithetical to the reasons for having a cap.
#### this ####.
Let's go Panthers.
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05-15-2021, 08:50 PM
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#46
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Lifetime Suspension
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Creative stuff from the Lightning Dolts.
Though in their position I'd try and do the same. Anything for the prize right.
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05-15-2021, 08:56 PM
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#47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
^Quadruple post
As for this debacle, yeah, as soon as Kucherov was practicing this should have been investigated by independent doctors hired by the NHL.
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We really don’t know that he wasn’t.
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05-15-2021, 08:57 PM
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#48
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djsFlames
Creative stuff from the Lightning Dolts.
Though in their position I'd try and do the same. Anything for the prize right.
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This is hard to deny. Were any of us upset when Sutter signed Kipper to a contract that had 8.5 mill in the first year and 1.5 in the last?
Not really.
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05-15-2021, 09:01 PM
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#49
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Saying the league should fix the loophole is different than saying they shouldn't have done it
player movement is exciting anyway, they need to force teams to actually be cap compliant
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05-15-2021, 09:34 PM
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#50
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The solution to me is simple: players earn playoff eligibility by counting against the cap for a certain period of time.
Simplest is the number of days from TDL to end of season (this year it would only be ~33, normally it's in the low 40's). It doesn't have to be those exact days, but as long as you've counted against the cap that many days at some point that season, you're eligible.
That's a little light though; I'd like at least a 1 to 1 ratio to earn PO games. Seasons are usually around 187 days. 28/82 is 34.1% of the season, so I'd make it so you had to be counting on the cap for 64 days to be eligible to play all 28 possible playoff games.
Of course, I don't think anybody's every gone to game 7 all 4 series; so if you're that close to the cap (and find yourself with an injured player), maybe you only go for 24 games of eligibility (55 days). Would be an interesting little wrinkle to capology.
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Originally Posted by Joborule
Just carry over the AAV's/cap hits of the player's contract.
Even though they don't get paid, the team can only ice a roster that still is sound with the salary cap limit based on players cap hit for the season.
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Kills the TDL, which probably hurts rebuilding teams more than it helps them.
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Originally Posted by The Cobra
A calculator? You know their cap, you can add it up
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Green text? You do know the cap is accrued daily...it's not crazy complicated, but it's kinda complicated.
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05-15-2021, 09:47 PM
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#51
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djsFlames
Creative stuff from the Lightning Dolts.
Though in their position I'd try and do the same. Anything for the prize right.
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If you're not cheating then you're not trying hard enough.
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05-15-2021, 09:59 PM
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#52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joborule
Just carry over the AAV's/cap hits of the player's contract.
Even though they don't get paid, the team can only ice a roster that still is sound with the salary cap limit based on players cap hit for the season.
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But players don't count for their full cap hit for every day of the season... they count against the cap on a daily rate. Are you going to change that rate for the playoffs or pro-rate the length of the playoffs?
The salary cap works in the regular season because every team has the same length of season. That's not the case in the playoffs.
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05-15-2021, 10:11 PM
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#53
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They're not very bright, at least they could make it look good and sit Kucherov for the first game.
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05-15-2021, 10:13 PM
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#54
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Lol. I called this too. Such a joke.
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05-15-2021, 10:14 PM
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Has anyone even tried to look at the facts of the other side?
People here seem very made up in their mind without actually looking into it.
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05-15-2021, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Philly06Cup
Has anyone even tried to look at the facts of the other side?
People here seem very made up in their mind without actually looking into it.
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Look into what? that Kucherov has been practicing for 2 months and is miraculously ready to play when he doesn't count against the cap.
You can change my mind with the "facts" though
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05-15-2021, 10:23 PM
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#57
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Originally Posted by Philly06Cup
Has anyone even tried to look at the facts of the other side?
People here seem very made up in their mind without actually looking into it.
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I contacted their Doctors and am perusing their Medical Files as we speak....
I must say, based on these reports its either a miracle or a remarkable coincidence...
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05-15-2021, 10:26 PM
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#58
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
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It'll be funny when Kucherov goes back on LTIR to start next season.
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05-15-2021, 10:41 PM
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#59
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Originally Posted by cannon7
It'll be funny when Kucherov goes back on LTIR to start next season.
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They'll be doing something like that, 17 players signed and $5m over the cap already for 21/22
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05-15-2021, 10:42 PM
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#60
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by powderjunkie
Kills the TDL, which probably hurts rebuilding teams more than it helps them.
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Trade deadline shouldn't be a concern since it doesn't generate money for the NHL in the US. In Canada it gets attention because it's shoved down our throats and we eat it up. No one down there really gives a #### about the NHL trade deadline.
And even still, just because of that doesn't mean that teams should be allowed to exceed the cap then, because you're getting this situation where the cap doesn't really exist if you can manipulate the rules into your favour to actually exceed the cap and have more superstar players than what it intends for.
I feel the system should be fairly simple and straightforward. You're team's cap for the season as a whole is something you have to comply with every day your team has an active ongoing season. Player's AAV is the only thing that matters. Regular season or post season, you have to ice a roster that is within the limit. Offseason and preseason you can be over.
NHL GM's will be cleaver enough to make big deals around the deadline since they're desperate enough to make dumb moves for instant chance of improvement.
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