The Legend of Sam Bennett

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Bennett can't carry a puck to save his life...better than Gaudreau at zone entries lol

Fack sake

Better at crashing the net and chopping wood I will give ya

Have you watched him on the Panthers? Q disagrees.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by heep223

Just to pick on the one bolded piece above, the Flames zone entries on the PP seem super successful to me and Johnny's one of the best in the business at it. It's pretty rare that there's a giveaway there. But for some reason it seems to be a common theme around here that it's not very successful. Fight me

IMO it’s always had a 90% successful entry rate and the problems always happened afterwards. This year it may have been worse and that always seemed to be because he was giving it to Tkachuk on entry and then Tkachuk was losing it on the RH boards.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Have you watched him on the Panthers? Q disagrees.

dino knows more than Q, obviously

he's got rings!

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

dino knows more than Q, obviously

he's got rings!

I know that Gaudreau is better at carrying the puck into the zone than Sam Bennett

Not rocket science

Do you actually disagree?

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I know that Gaudreau is better at carrying the puck into the zone than Sam Bennett

Not rocket science

Do you actually disagree?

There's an immense gap between

"Gaudreau, a top ~five player in the NHL at controlled zone entries, is better at carrying the puck into the zone than Sam Bennett"

and

"Bennett can't carry a puck to save his life"

And yes, it's possible for someone to have more success at something without being better at it. Since the Panthers PP doesn't have Tkachuk and Monahan, they are collectively able to enter with a lot more speed and variance in their entries.

Bennett certainly can carry the puck through the middle. And he doesn't need to be Gaudreau tier to be pretty good at it.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I know that Gaudreau is better at carrying the puck into the zone than Sam Bennett

Not rocket science

Do you actually disagree?

He's good enough at it to be trusted to do so and do so successfully by one of the best coaches in league, on a team with many other options.

Do you disagree?

Sorry, your contributions to the thread have mostly been popping up when he has a pointless game, patting your own back when he gets injured, and underselling skills as "couldn't do it to save his life" when Stanley Cup winning coaches seem to have no problem trusting him to use them.

Kind of depressing to watch, honestly.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Dang 100 pages.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Dang 100 pages.

Embarrassing.

The obsession was supposed to die after we moved on. At least its all self contained to one gong show thread.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

He's good enough at it to be trusted to do so and do so successfully by one of the best coaches in league, on a team with many other options.

Do you disagree?

Sorry, your contributions to the thread have mostly been popping up when he has a pointless game, patting your own back when he gets injured, and underselling skills as "couldn't do it to save his life" when Stanley Cup winning coaches seem to have no problem trusting him to use them.

Kind of depressing to watch, honestly.

I'm not the one who started this by saying he was better at zone entries than Gaudreau...had to push back on that one. I have watched him for over 400 games he is not skilled at carrying the puck.

We have fanboys who go crazy after a shot goes off his ass and in maybe we need a little something biased the other way to even things out.

Bennett is a decent NHLer who will have a long career IMO. He isn't suddenly a star because of a two week hot streak with a new team though.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

LOL you compared Bennett to Marc Savard??

Better comparison would be Fernando Pisani in the playoff run. He still has pretty low hockey IQ and that's hard to fix.

Here it is, have fun with it: https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showth...15#post7734315

And a rather fun response: https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showth...86#post7736786

I get it, 13 games is not a large sample size. But it's not a tiny sample size either. With each passing game where he stays productive, it gets harder and harder to write this off as a fluke.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Embarrassing.

The obsession was supposed to die after we moved on. At least its all self contained to one gong show thread.

You watch any Flames hockey this year? At this point talking about the Flames is more embarrassing than talking about a player on the Panthers people like.

At least one of them is providing some entertainment.

[InternationalVillager]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

You watch any Flames hockey this year? At this point talking about the Flames is more embarrassing than talking about a player on the Panthers people like.

At least one of them is providing some entertainment.

[djsFlames]

So we're strictly Sam Bennett fans now?

I mean if that excites you, then you do you.

I personally try not to get that invested in one player just cause he happened to be our highest draft pick who we attached wildly unrealistic expectations to once.

The only player I've allowed that to be the case with is Iginla. And that's because he invested years in this team and accomplished many things as a proud Flame in order to warrant that following after his departure.

Bennett was a guy that underdelivered, provided a couple rather forgettable moments, then hinted at various points that he was disgruntled with his treatment until he was ultimately shipped off.

That just doesn't warrant the same investment from me.

But again, you do you.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

So we're strictly Sam Bennett fans now?

I mean if that excites you, then you do you.

I personally try not to get that invested in one player just cause he happened to be our highest draft pick who we attached wildly unrealistic expectations to once.

The only player I've allowed that to be the case with is Iginla. And that's because he invested years in this team and accomplished many things as a proud Flame in order to warrant that following after his departure.

Bennett was a guy that underdelivered, provided a couple rather forgettable moments, then hinted at various points that he was disgruntled with his treatment until he was ultimately shipped off.

That just doesn't warrant the same investment from me.

But again, you do you.

You can be a fan of whatever or whoever you want. Nobody cares but you.

The fact that you seem to care what other people are fans of, though, is pretty odd.

It's not like we're talking about the Oilers here. It's an ex-player that a lot of people like playing on a team the Flames haven't faced in over a year.

Seems like maybe it's time to add another hobby to the mix if you have feelings about people still liking Sam Bennett strong enough that you need to jump into a thread about Sam Bennett to make sure people know it. Nobody cares, it looks silly.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

You can be a fan of whatever or whoever you want. Nobody cares but you.

The fact that you seem to care what other people are fans of, though, is pretty odd.

It's not like we're talking about the Oilers here. It's an ex-player that a lot of people like playing on a team the Flames haven't faced in over a year.

Seems like maybe it's time to add another hobby to the mix if you have feelings about people still liking Sam Bennett strong enough that you need to jump into a thread about Sam Bennett to make sure people know it. Nobody cares, it looks silly.

But I said "you do you", twice.

Which urban dictionary would define more or less as: do what makes you happy, bro.

It's like you totally overlooked that very key phrase. Y u heff to be mehd.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I'm not the one who started this by saying he was better at zone entries than Gaudreau...had to push back on that one. I have watched him for over 400 games he is not skilled at carrying the puck.

We have fanboys who go crazy after a shot goes off his ass and in maybe we need a little something biased the other way to even things out.

Bennett is a decent NHLer who will have a long career IMO. He isn't suddenly a star because of a two week hot streak with a new team though.

I acknowledged that I was guilty of tarring Gaudreau based on a relatively short stretch of play (though I think Sam's very short sample size of success on PP zone entries is still superior to the Flames overall this season).

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

You can be a fan of whatever or whoever you want. Nobody cares but you.

The fact that you seem to care what other people are fans of, though, is pretty odd.

It's not like we're talking about the Oilers here. It's an ex-player that a lot of people like playing on a team the Flames haven't faced in over a year.

Seems like maybe it's time to add another hobby to the mix if you have feelings about people still liking Sam Bennett strong enough that you need to jump into a thread about Sam Bennett to make sure people know it. Nobody cares, it looks silly.

It goes both ways...you seem to be pretty miffed some people don't want to cheer for him.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

You can be a fan of whatever or whoever you want. Nobody cares but you.

The fact that you seem to care what other people are fans of, though, is pretty odd.

It's not like we're talking about the Oilers here. It's an ex-player that a lot of people like playing on a team the Flames haven't faced in over a year.

Seems like maybe it's time to add another hobby to the mix if you have feelings about people still liking Sam Bennett strong enough that you need to jump into a thread about Sam Bennett to make sure people know it. Nobody cares, it looks silly.

Little odd when some are targeting the posters for a player they like in a designated thread. We are all Flames fans.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

I acknowledged that I was guilty of tarring Gaudreau based on a relatively short stretch of play (though I think Sam's very short sample size of success on PP zone entries is still superior to the Flames overall this season).

If Bennett is carrying the puck into the zone easy its because the other team is worried about his line mates.

Carrying the puck up ice is not a strength of his IMO...my 400 games of watching him has me quite confident in that assessment.

Gaudreau is basically working on his own and still gains the zone more often than not

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Carrying the puck up ice is not a strength of his IMO...my 400 games of watching him has me quite confident in that assessment.

I'm not sure how someone could watch him play for four hundred games and not notice that carrying the puck is actually his biggest strength.