The Legend of Sam Bennett

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

I think at the suggestion was more toward how we talk to other people with differing opinions, not so much the disappointment with how things were handled.

I have a feeling we don't see Sam regress for awhile, and now that coach Q has seen as much he'd get benched if he badly takes his foot off the gas!

As for your first point, nah, that came later


I think Sutter helped in his last half dozen games put Sam in the right direction, and Q inherited a guy with renewed focus

I think people here are neglecting the difference the good coach makes. I don’t expect you see a Q team become a plodding cerebral team, playing without pace and focus. It’s probably a simple team to play with, when you can trust your teammates to be playing the right way

[GranteedEV]

Bennett picks up his first goal against (5v5) as a Panther on a poor line change by Barkov et al

[ComixZone]

Whoa what the hell were Duclair and Barkov doing on that change. Yikes.

Bennett finally gets hit with a minus.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Whoa what the hell were Duclair and Barkov doing on that change. Yikes.

Bennett finally gets hit with a minus.

It was super, duper, crazy, lazy. No chance for the guys changing to do anything to get into the play.

That's really rare from Barkov. He's very responsible. He'll probably talk to himself tonight about that.

But let's be real. These are tune-up games for the playoffs. I don't think they're going all out the way they normally would.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I used this statement as an example of people arguing on the extremes

""Face it, the Flames just blew it with their highest ever pick. There is no way the Flames turn out smelling like roses here""

Saying that 10 games after a trade, one that involves future picks, is premature at best.

Don't re-phrase my points. If you are going to call back to my points use my actual words instead of your inaccurate interpretation of them that you are using to make your pot shot.

You have a hard time understanding that someone can have a different opinion that you by saying things like "because it seems to be obviously correct".

Right now the trade doesn't look good for the Flames. Lots of time ahead though before that can be said with such certainty.

And to be clear I have no horse in the race. Sam always seemed like a great kid. I hope he does incredibly well and makes millions. And I hope the Flames draft a star with that pick.

Well, I view it like this
- we can look at the multi year tenure and we know with certainty what the Flames got out of him. That book is closed, and what they got is known with certainty
- the Flames did not put him in a regular top 6 role or use him on special teams
- they saw him be effective in the playoffs with stable linemates
- they still put him bottom 6
- he has been a noticeable positive contributor and difference maker in Florida in the role the Flames didn’t give him

The Flames did not get in 7 years much at all out of their top ever pick. Florida has easily shown that there is more there.

Q called it a home run

They blew it.

Fine, call it extreme. You are right. I don’t care. It’s right.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

It was super, duper, crazy, lazy. No chance for the guys changing to do anything to get into the play.

That's really rare from Barkov. He's very responsible. He'll probably talk to himself tonight about that.

But let's be real. These are tune-up games for the playoffs. I don't think they're going all out the way they normally would.

Oh definitely. Barkov is a beast.

and just like that…Barkov makes up for it.

The difference between drafting 2nd and 6th…Barkov to Monahan…yeah…

I wish Ekblad wasn’t hurt.

Ekblad, Barkov, Huberdeau, Bennett, Knight, Bobrovsky (assuming he delivers come playoff time)…and a young Tippett, alongside Lundell making his way. I really like this Panthers team.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

As for your first point, nah, that came later


I think Sutter helped in his last half dozen games put Sam in the right direction, and Q inherited a guy with renewed focus

I think people here are neglecting the difference the good coach makes. I don’t expect you see a Q team become a plodding cerebral team, playing without pace and focus. It’s probably a simple team to play with, when you can trust your teammates to be playing the right way

Having a coach who sees your skills and believes in your abilities has to be huge! That and the fact that Sam is playing with better players. How many times did Sam pass to a Flames team-mate and they would completely miss or mess it up. Flames still do that on occasion but Bennett seems to be connecting better in Florida.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Oh definitely. Barkov is a beast.

and just like that…Barkov makes up for it.

The difference between drafting 2nd and 6th…Barkov to Monahan…yeah…

Barkov is a unicorn as he is elite across several dimensions of the game. A poor man's Crosby if you will.
Has been my favorite non Flame for a while. I love elite two way players.

[Passe La Puck]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

The Flames lost Jean-Sebastien Giguere and St.Louis both right after the transition from Coates to Button. I believe Coates believed in both, Button had different ideas.
Man, looking back, with Button at the helm, we lost St. Louis, Marc Savard, and Jean-Sebastien Giguere, all for nothing.

And he's still employed by the flames? Or at least recently was a scout right or adviser or some ####? Embarrassing...

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Oh definitely. Barkov is a beast.

and just like that…Barkov makes up for it.

The difference between drafting 2nd and 6th…Barkov to Monahan…yeah…

I wish Ekblad wasn’t hurt.

Ekblad, Barkov, Huberdeau, Bennett, Knight, Bobrovsky (assuming he delivers come playoff time)…and a young Tippett, alongside Lundell making his way. I really like this Panthers team.

Don't forget Weegar. Guy is basically 2014 Giordano coming out of nowhere and being the best D in the league

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Passe La Puck

And he's still employed by the flames? Or at least recently was a scout right or adviser or some ####? Embarrassing...

I dont think so. His brother is the head Amateur Scout though. And he's been really really good.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Passe La Puck

And he's still employed by the flames? Or at least recently was a scout right or adviser or some ####? Embarrassing...

That was Craig Button. We employ his brother Tod, who had a hand in the drafting of guys like Bennett, Gaudreau, Mangiapane, Brodie, Backlund, Ferland, Dube, Tkachuk, etc. Tod's been good at his job for over a decade.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

LMAO. Wow, that last move by Duclair after the setup by Barkov was insane.

[DazzlinDino]

Wow nice goal!

[ComixZone]

These Panther broadcasters LOVE saying “he’s got a pair, and they’re huge”

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Woah...now Tippett scores to put them up 5-2. Primary assist from Bennett.

[AC]

Attaboy Benny! Primary assist, those ones count double is that right?

[ComixZone]

And another assist for Bennett.

Wow.

[DazzlinDino]

What a play by Bennett!

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

These Panther broadcasters LOVE saying “he’s got a pair, and they’re huge”

Pretty normal phrasing for the state of Florida I assume lol.