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[GranteedEV]

I don't care about Stone being in, but I'm frustrated about Kylington not being in.

[442scotty]

They are trying to hide Kylington from Seattle I assume. Pretty sure that is the plan.

[Barnet Flame]

Go. Flames. Something

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

I don't care about Stone being in, but I'm frustrated about Kylington not being in.

For whatever reason, they already wrote off Kylington

He is done as a Flames, too bad for him nobody else want him also

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by flambers

I guess I see it different, I'd rather see the Coach hold the young players like Dube and Valimaki accountable.

Its a clear message

What about the vets? no accountability?

[WhiteTiger]

Go Flames go

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by 442scotty

They are trying to hide Kylington from Seattle I assume. Pretty sure that is the plan.

Yeah Treliving is a QANON member

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Yes but his love for Ritchie is kinda weird and diluted the message

I disagree a bit. Yeah, he likes him, but he also has pulled him out of the lineup as well. Ritchie is what he is - a player that skates hard, competes hard, checks hard, with 'some' ability. I can understand why Darryl likes him, but scratching him completely also shows that he isn't in love with him.


I am more surprised that Robinson hasn't had a turn yet under Darryl. There is a guy that I think Darryl would like too.

[DoubleK]

I'm pissed no Rinaldo.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

Sutter is trying to groom Dube into a top line effort who plays hard every game. It's called development. They see Dube as a future leader of the team I bet and don't want him following in the current cores footsteps. So you sit him out and make him accountable. Other teams do this all the time with younger players but it's some kind of affront here.

Yup. Players also respond best to different tactics and that's Sutter's job to determine. Sutter "admitting" to it being "his bad" for not giving Tkachuk enough ice time was his tactic to motivate Tkachuk. He sees him as a player who wants to lead and wants to be counted on so Sutter is saying out loud he will put start putting him in these situations. Tkachuk just needs to respond and answer the bell.

[ForeverFlameFan]

I wonder if the Flames are scared of Kylington getting picked in the ED. Because in all games that I’ve seen him, he’s been nothing short of a mainstay in the top 6 (imo). His skating is much too valuable to not be in the lineup with the speed that the NHL uses.

[MissTeeks]

At least Stone will probably play like he gives a damn.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1373413478627565570

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Not sure it is a coach killing roster, it is just not a very good roster. It is a poorly constructed team that on paper is about the 22nd best roster in the league. And they are around the 22nd best team in the league. On paper the goaltending is average and it has been average. On paper the defence is slightly below average and it is slightly below average. On paper the forwards are slightly below average and they have been slightly below average. They do not play better than they are but they play at about what you would expect when you look at them on paper.

I think (don't think I'm alone) that they're considerably better on paper than they have been on the ice since about February 10th.

You're welcome to your opinion of course though.

Hard not to count the number of coaches they've been through though. Playing less than the sum of your parts for what seems like a new coach each year is coaching killing to me.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Michael stone took 11M from this team without breaking a sweat. I hope that’s the least he can do

But I do not fault him. That’s on the wizard that builds this sad team.

Pretty sure Michael Stone breaks a sweat every game.

He's always been an honest hard working 4/5 guy until the blood clot issue.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by Flame On

Of course I want them to kick ass, but...

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Pretty sure Michael Stone breaks a sweat every game.

He's always been an honest hard working 4/5 guy until the blood clot issue.

Hard to do that from the press box?

Dude has not played a game this year and only 43 the last 3 years

Like I said, I do not blame him. This is all on Treliving

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

What about the vets? no accountability?

I guess you can't place 5 or so players in the press box, he is focusing on the youth

As I would think some of the vet's are going to be moved in the off season

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by flambers

I guess you can't place 5 or so players in the press box, he is focusing on the youth

As I would think some of the vet's are going to be moved in the off season

Yeah and look at the way he is doing it. Sits Valamaki and Dube quietly while publicly calling out Gadreaus poor effort last game. Shielding the rookies and torching the vets who aren't bringing effort.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Hard to do that from the press box?

Dude has not played a game this year and only 43 the last 3 years

Like I said, I do not blame him. This is all on Treliving

He played 82 games the season before his blood clot, and the club's first 14 games up to the diagnosis.

Hasn't been the same since.

The Stone acquisition was never an issue, not sure why the focus on that.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I think (don't think I'm alone) that they're considerably better on paper than they have been on the ice since about February 10th.

You're welcome to your opinion of course though.

Hard not to count the number of coaches they've been through though. Playing less than the sum of your parts for what seems like a new coach each year is coaching killing to me.

When I look at the roster, overall I would personally definitely rather have the following rosters in the league (just based on paper, not based on standings)

Toronto
Winnipeg
Tampa
Washington
Vegas
Carolina
Colorado
Islanders
Florida
Boston
St Louis
Philly
Dallas

I would have the Flames roster below those 13 rosters

I could make the argument that the following are better and personally do think they are better

Edmonton
Montreal
Vancouver
Pittsburgh
Columbus
Rangers
Arizona

For me I would have them as the 21st best roster in the league. I would personally have an impossible time putting this roster in the top third of the league and a hard time even putting it in the top half of the league. I think the coaching turnover in part is because of extraneous factors (Peters racism) but more because Treliving thinks he has built a top tier roster when he has built an average at best, likely below average roster.