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Old 03-24-2021, 07:04 PM   #241
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His confidence, having to play with a team of uninterested, overpaid players.
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Sens are a bad matchup because they are hard working and they are able to do it for the whole game.

The Flames are slow and out of shape and just can't keep up.
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Old 03-24-2021, 07:07 PM   #243
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Sens are a bad matchup because they are hard working and they are able to do it for the whole game.

The Flames are slow and out of shape and just can't keep up.
When the supposed worst team in the division is a bad matchup, you know you have problems.
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Old 03-24-2021, 07:07 PM   #244
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Some blamed the HC, exclusively.

Some blamed the top players , exclusively.

Some had blame for both, but mostly on the coach.

Some had blame for both, but mostly on the top players.

Some added the management , as being the problem.

Would be interesting to do a poll, to see where people stand now.
Some blamed the players but then also oddly wouldn't hold the GM accountable.
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Get Lower for Power.
Would that make the Flames a Power Bottom?

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When the supposed worst team in the division is a bad matchup, you know you have problems.
No kidding.

That's what I feel is the reason they struggle with them.
Young team with something to prove. They skate well and the Flames do not. Skill means crap when you are out of shape, small and soft.
Other teams have difference makers so they can still beat them. Flames get out worked and have no individual talent to counter it.
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This entire team is full of rot. They can't really complete with the good teams because they can't match up with skill. Can't compete with the worst team because that team competes too hard for them.

Give up on the season, bring up some kids and start planning for next year.

Also, markstrom is pretty damn average. His rebounds are atrocious.
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Also, markstrom is pretty damn average. His rebounds are atrocious.



If the Flames are smart, they've already prepped a run for Mr. Clark who is likely not coming back to the Canucks.
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Old 03-24-2021, 07:14 PM   #249
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I need some popcorn. Nowhere overreacts like CP does. Its entertaining and sad all at once.

Yeah...there are a few changes needed but let's be rational here.
Rational is exactly the thing that got us to where we are.
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Old 03-24-2021, 07:17 PM   #250
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For real. Making fun of the Oilers, even in past several years since Flames have never amounted to anything save for one season, has lost it's luster cause Flames #### stinks more.
Hold up.

Coilers never even made the playoffs last year, because they choked to the worst team ever to make a playin or playoff.

Year before that was “something in the water”

This team is very pathetic but Oilers something else and for 16 years now. They are the only thing in all pro sports that absolutely stinks more and it ain’t close.

Don’t let the SN fan club fool ya.
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Would that make the Flames a Power Bottom?

Asking for a friend.
Maybe this shows that our Power Play actually is working.
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Old 03-24-2021, 07:20 PM   #252
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Tre better make significant changes at the deadline, more likely the offseason, or he should be terminated.

This is not a playoff team, it's not a deep team, it's not a good team.
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Old 03-24-2021, 07:20 PM   #253
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Hold up.

Coilers never even made the playoffs last year, because they choked to the worst team ever to make a playin or playoff.

Year before that was “something in the water”

This team is very pathetic but Oilers something else and for 16 years now. They are the only thing in all pro sports that absolutely stinks more and it ain’t close.

Don’t let the SN fan club fool ya.
Oilers suck has held the Flames back for decades now.
Its a terrible measuring stick but somehow often gets used.

Congrats Flames, you're only the 2rd worst franchise in the NHL (or 3rd, but you get my point).
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If Daryl can overhaul his system to compliment the players he has, there could be some improvement. I don't think we have bad players. They just play bad.
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Some blamed the players but then also oddly wouldn't hold the GM accountable.
Because the GM is not responsible for everything that happens to the players. Coming out of 2019 when the Flames won the Division, there was every good reason to think that several of the underperforming players would rebound from a bad second-half and playoffs. No one predicted that they would go on to be as bad as they have been.
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Because the GM is not responsible for everything that happens to the players. Coming out of 2019 when the Flames won the Division, there was every good reason to think that several of the underperforming players would rebound from a bad second-half and playoffs. No one predicted that they would go on to be as bad as they have been.
Then he gave them a second season to see if they would rebound as a stress test to make sure that the 2nd half of 18/19 and all of 19/20 were not aberrations
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Old 03-24-2021, 07:50 PM   #258
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Gio is barely an NHL defenceman at this point.
Also the only Flame to score today.
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Old 03-24-2021, 07:53 PM   #259
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It was obvious for a long time the players were the problem, not the coach, not the system.

Treliving missed out by not changing things up 2 years ago or so. He's got no choice now. They are one of the worst teams in the league. No point in holding back on major trades and hoping things just magically fix themselves under Sutter. Just a rotten team right now.
I would imagine there will be some changes to the core with hopes of retooling this team. The question is can we get a fair avlue in any off season trades.
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Gulutzan, Peters, and Ward were terrible head coaches. They will never be head coaches in this league again. They were awful hires, and I think they damaged the development of almost every player on the roster.

That said, it’s also very clear that the roster itself is inept.

This isn’t a case of it being just the players or just the coaches. It was both.

Tree fixed the coaching position, but his read of his own roster is tragic. He built a turd, doubled down on it after the loss to the Avs, and then stuck his head in the dirt after that.
Outside of the racial issues I liked Peter's and his system of play. More creative than this boring north/south hockey Sutter has us playing. A system that was great when Sutter had a huge and physical teams to work with. Something he doesn't have now.

Maybe Tre has to get players that fit Sutter and his style of play.
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