03-20-2021, 08:55 AM
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#221
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
That’s a terrible read! I don’t know why that would be a valid excuse at all. Play the percentages and the safe play, you’re in your zone, and outlet pass to you is the least useful play when you’re down a defence man. Ice it if needed. Give the D your stick. Ridiculous. I can’t believe how many people think that an outlet pass is an excuse for this play at all.
No, the play isnt the end of the world or the worst thing we’ve ever seen. But it was pretty dumb for the “team first and cerebral” player that we have in Tkachuk.
The last person on your team, when in your defensive zone, who needs a stick, is a winger. The most important person to have a stick is the defenceman.
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Yeah, just a weird play by Tkachuck and hopefully not indicative of an overall mentality of "I'm an NHLer, you're not" or something ... but watching the play a couple times, I'm not sure what else he was hoping for, why he wouldn't just give Nesterov the stick and go to the bench quick....
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03-20-2021, 09:16 AM
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#222
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Originally Posted by TheSquatch
Yeah, just a weird play by Tkachuck and hopefully not indicative of an overall mentality of "I'm an NHLer, you're not" or something ... but watching the play a couple times, I'm not sure what else he was hoping for, why he wouldn't just give Nesterov the stick and go to the bench quick....
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I was thinking the same thing. Such a weird play and not a huge fan of how Tkachuk dealt with it.
At least one thing is for sure. If it's a mentality issue or a conflict, Sutter is the last person who would put up with that.
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03-20-2021, 09:17 AM
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#223
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Say what you want but Gaudreau is ####ing tough...Imagine being 150lbs and getting hit like that then not missing a shift. Guy needs to play with guys who can actually carry the puck though.
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Gaudreau-Backlund-Mangiapane
I don’t know why Backlund has never received the chance to play with Johnny for any extended period of time.
He’s the best centre at carrying the puck on the roster.
He’s the best defensive forward on the team.
His shot is heavier than it looks.
Everyone, literally everyone, is better with him.
Colborne got paid off the back of his one Backlund season.
Sam Bennett nearly scored 20 goals, and has barely looked like
an NHL player since.
Tkachuk misses him like Hannibal misses Will Graham.
I’m starting to get the feeing that “Backlund isn’t a first line centre” is based entirely on him not being able to centre Iggy when he was 21.
Maybe time to change that thinking up.
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03-20-2021, 09:26 AM
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#224
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Kelowna, BC
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Originally Posted by Flame On
Late to the party but take that St. Pats!
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'thanked' for the battle of the planets gif - ha! it's been what... 40 years since that was on tv?!? awesome!
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03-20-2021, 09:31 AM
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#225
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Franchise Player
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Bit of a nasty game, but I'll take the win! Would like to see Rittich get his turn in net soon and see how he fares under Sutter. I think Markstrom could use a bit of a break. Still a great clutch save by him in the 3rd!
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03-20-2021, 09:42 AM
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#226
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbit
The top line had ONE shot and were minus 2. Pretty abysmal.
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I keep think you're ragging on Lindholm, Tkachuk and Dube.
Haven't seen the Monahan line as a top line all season!
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03-20-2021, 09:47 AM
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#227
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
I keep think you're ragging on Lindholm, Tkachuk and Dube.
Haven't seen the Monahan line as a top line all season!
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That’s probably true but I think Sutter views the Monahan line as the top line.
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03-20-2021, 09:49 AM
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#228
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Lifetime Suspension
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Ya, some people are sort of suggesting that Monahan line is the second line now. But sadly they are the top line. They get more ice and all that top PP duty.
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03-20-2021, 09:57 AM
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#229
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: F*** me. We're so f***ing good, you check the f***ing standings? Lets f***ing go! F***ing practice!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red
Ya, some people are sort of suggesting that Monahan line is the second line now. But sadly they are the top line. They get more ice and all that top PP duty.
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Lindholm and Tkachuk are also on the top PP.
I think any line with Gaudreau on it is your top line. Unfortunately Monahan is seemingly tied to Johnny, even if he has been playing like the invisible man. It is incredibly strange how non existant Sean Monahan is. I notice Ritchie so much more than Monahan when that line is on the ice. Quite sad really.
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03-20-2021, 10:05 AM
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#230
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red
Ya, some people are sort of suggesting that Monahan line is the second line now. But sadly they are the top line. They get more ice and all that top PP duty.
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I think its not that cut and dry though.
Last night as an example it was pretty much a 3 way split for ES ice time.
9 guys all skated between 12 and 14 minutes....no one above that.
I think Sutter is still trying to figure out who his top guys are.
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03-20-2021, 10:12 AM
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#231
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by transplant99
I think its not that cut and dry though.
Last night as an example it was pretty much a 3 way split for ES ice time.
9 guys all skated between 12 and 14 minutes....no one above that.
I think Sutter is still trying to figure out who his top guys are.
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Yup. establish the pecking order and make changes from there.
Nothing about Darryl is hasty.
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03-20-2021, 10:38 AM
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#232
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by foofighter15
If that isn't textbook Boarding I don't know what is
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It was essentially identical to the Tanev hit on Tinordi - so where is the league-wide uproar, and calls for a suspension?
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03-20-2021, 10:41 AM
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#233
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red
Ya, some people are sort of suggesting that Monahan line is the second line now. But sadly they are the top line. They get more ice and all that top PP duty.
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The Lindholm line gets all the top line PP minutes and the most overall PP minutes on the team. They also get more ice 5 on 5
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03-20-2021, 10:46 AM
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#234
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
The Lindholm line gets all the top line PP minutes and the most overall PP minutes on the team. They also get more ice 5 on 5
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Lindholm, Tkachuk, Gaudreau and Monahan are all on PP1. The Lindholm line gets more please print minutes because they add Dube’s PP2 minutes. I don’t think this is a big factor in “ranking” the lines. And 5 on 5 - are you talking this year or under Sutter only?
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03-20-2021, 10:48 AM
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#235
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sherwood Park, AB
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Originally Posted by AC
I still don't like the Holl hit on Gaudreau.
To me it was enough of a blindside hit as Gaudreau obviously didn't see him coming, though there wasn't any head contact. Is that the requirement?
The Leafs feed showed how far away from the boards Gaudreau was when Holl came flying in to hit him:
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Looks like a good hit to me, good on Holl to avoid the head, especially against a smaller player.
Just because Johnny had his head down and didn't notice Holl doesn't make it a blind side hit. It wasn't from behind, Gaudreau left himself open for a solid open ice hit and Holl took the opportunity. No more of a blindside hit than the one Tkachuk had on Tavares imo.
https://twitter.com/user/status/https://twitter.com/i/status/1364024567283343360
Tkachuk on Tavares
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03-20-2021, 10:55 AM
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#236
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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The one good thing about that hit is that Johnny recovered and played the next shift, and hopefully felt OK. Sometimes a player needs a hit to remind himself he can take it.
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03-20-2021, 11:01 AM
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#237
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by indes
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His proximity to tbe boards is what makes it a dangerous hit. It has nothing to do with Gaudreau having his head down. How is it you have ignored this rather crucial point?
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03-20-2021, 11:05 AM
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#238
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
That’s probably true but I think Sutter views the Monahan line as the top line.
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Well if the intended parallel is the 2014 Kings, Monahan line would be equivalent to the Carter line, while Lindholm/Tkachuk are equivalent to the Kopitar line, and Lucic/Backlund equivalent to the Richards line, and Bennett/Ryan line equivalent to the Stoll line.
Most would have called the Kopitar line the Kings' top line.
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03-20-2021, 11:09 AM
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#239
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Lindholm, Tkachuk, Gaudreau and Monahan are all on PP1. The Lindholm line gets more please print minutes because they add Dube’s PP2 minutes. I don’t think this is a big factor in “ranking” the lines. And 5 on 5 - are you talking this year or under Sutter only?
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The discussion was about whether Sutter views the Monahan line as the top line so it was a comment about under Sutter. First sentence I guess should have been in green, but I am aware that our PP1 is not the Lindholm line with two dmen. Under Sutter so far it is a bit of a moot point because 5 on 5 the icetime is pretty evenly distributed across the top 3 lines with Backlund getting the most 5 on 5 icetime out of all the centers and all 3 centers being within two shifts a game of each other 5 on 5.
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03-20-2021, 11:11 AM
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#240
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
The discussion was about whether Sutter views the Monahan line as the top line so it was a comment about under Sutter. First sentence I guess should have been in green, but I am aware that our PP1 is not the Lindholm line with two dmen. Under Sutter so far it is a bit of a moot point because 5 on 5 the icetime is pretty evenly distributed across the top 3 lines with Backlund getting the most 5 on 5 icetime out of all the centers and all 3 centers being within two shifts a game of each other 5 on 5.
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Well, in any event Sutter was seemingly not concerned abut sheltering Monahan’s line. Lots of D zone starts.
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