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Old 03-19-2021, 08:43 PM   #141
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If you want to be a top line, you have to play against top lines. you can’t improve on that without getting thrown in. He’s asking for more from them.
That's true, but it is also true that if you want to be a top line, you don't have a player of Brett Ritchie's level on it. Hopefully all of the cap maneuvering that has gone on will allow them to bring another skilled RW in, because they really need one.
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Old 03-19-2021, 08:44 PM   #142
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Truth is we don't really have a top line at the moment and just have to win as a team, and rely on our 3-4 lines to kick in with offence. Once we can get a top line established I think we're capable of a real run.

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Truth is we don't really have a top line at the moment and just have to win as a team, and rely on our 3-4 lines to kick in with offence. Once we can get a top line established I think we're capable of a real run.
That's why I think bringing back Tkachuk/Backlund/Mangiapane would be ideal. We KNOW that's a top line. It's one of the best lines in the league.
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If you want to be a top line, you have to play against top lines. you can’t improve on that without getting thrown in. He’s asking for more from them.
Completely agree.

Darryl demands more, and he's going to force it out of them one way or another
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Old 03-19-2021, 08:52 PM   #147
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I don't think that's completely accurate, but I'll go back and look at their shifts.

I know that on Wednesday, that line attempted just eight controlled zone entries all game. Three ended with Ritchie turnovers.

They dumped the puck in 15 times and came away with possession twice. So... if Ritchie is supposed to be the one on that line retrieving pucks, he's not doing his job at all.
Not sure that's Ritchie's job as much as being F1 and separating guys from the puck so either 13 or 23 can retrieve it and make a play with space. It kinda sorta works, just not well enough. Looch does a better job of that on his line.
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He fed them to the wolves, and they got eaten alive by the wolves lol they were massacred every time they stepped foot on the ice
Not only you, but I find it strange how when describing analytical results there is often a tendency to use hyperbolic metaphors like "massacre" or "caved in" or "crushed".

Is it because analytics acolytes are worried that people won't get the meaning if they don't exaggerate?

I have no idea what Monahan's %CF was tonight, but where is the defining line of being massacred? Like is that less than 50%, or 40%, 30%? Is being caved in better or worse than being massacred? These technical terms can be confounding.
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Not only you, but I find it strange how when describing analytical results there is often a tendency to use hyperbolic metaphors like "massacre" or "caved in" or "crushed".

Is it because analytics acolytes are worried that people won't get the meaning if they don't exaggerate?

I have no idea what Monahan's %CF was tonight, but where is the defining line of being massacred? Like is that less than 50%, or 40%, 30%? Is being caved in better or worse than being massacred? These technical terms can be confounding.
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Massacred, caved in, crushed? You be the judge.
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That's why I think bringing back Tkachuk/Backlund/Mangiapane would be ideal. We KNOW that's a top line. It's one of the best lines in the league.
Well we have to try something. Sure we won tonight, but nothing sustainable as far as lines really jumps out at me. In Sutter we trust!
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Not only you, but I find it strange how when describing analytical results there is often a tendency to use hyperbolic metaphors like "massacre" or "caved in" or "crushed".

Is it because analytics acolytes are worried that people won't get the meaning if they don't exaggerate?

I have no idea what Monahan's %CF was tonight, but where is the defining line of being massacred? Like is that less than 50%, or 40%, 30%? Is being caved in better or worse than being massacred? These technical terms can be confounding.
I usually stick to words like "dominated", "destroyed", etc.. they all mean the same thing, but the Gaudreau-Monahan-Ritchie line had one of the worst performances I've seen over the last year or so which is why I went the extra mile lol

Using your example of Monahan, the Flames were out-attempted 15-3 (16.67%), out-shot 6-1 (14.29%), out-scored 2-0, out-chanced 10-1 (9.09%) and out-high danger chanced 5-0 with him on the ice, which is why I used "massacred" because it was a truly horrible performance.

Usually, the way I look at things when it comes to analytics (obviously very general without going too much into detail or taking game context into perspective):

65%+ = pure domination
60% = phenomenal
55% = excellent
50% = average
45% = below average
40% = horrible
35% and less = pathetic
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Montreal has two less wins than us and are somehow still maintaining a 2 point lead.

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Old 03-19-2021, 09:32 PM   #155
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Boy for being #1 in the division, Leafs fans sure hate their team!
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Can anyone explain why Tkachuk didnt give Nesternov his stick here?

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It's Nesterov, he's just as effective without one
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Will never complain about a win but Tre needs to
acquire a bonafide RW in the worst way.
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Funny enough, a RW is leading the farm team in scoring right now..................
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It's mostly just Andersen we hate at that moment.

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