[PGT] Flames beat Vancouver 4-3 in OVERTIME

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

It just so happens that when the Flames roll into town, this complete circus of a team the weeks prior, has finally said enough is enough and managed to find their game?

Not quite. The Canucks played a very good game in Toronto three nights before their first home game v. Calgary. They outshot the Maple Leafs 32–19 and limited them to 7 shots through the first two periods.

You don't just flip a switch from being outscored 26-10 in the previous 5 games to what we're seeing now, unless you're getting serious help from your opponent. If this were the case, why can't the Flames actually step up and hand it to a weaker opponent once and a while?

They have. The Flames completely outclassed the Canucks on their two visits to Calgary.

Instead, the Flames are again proving they are incapable of consistency or killer instinct, which, when you get right down to it, means they are mediocre. If it weren't for the continual amazing goaltending from Markstrom, they would surely be near the bottom of the ladder based on the continued lifeless play more often than not.

Do the Flames need to stomp their opponents every night? Certainly not. But they do need to show up and put in more than a pulse for 30+ minutes each night if anything is going to truly change.

I don't disagree, but I think the reason why they have struggled with consistency has had a lot to do with the schedule. The Flames have played a larger percentage of their schedule on the road so far than any other team in the Division, and they are one of three teams that have played most of their games against the top-three. I am betting that things will correct themselves starting March after the Flames have played over half of their road schedule. After 1 March they will play 20/34 games at the Saddledome

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

...Oh...so teams only rebuild when the core is old? I thought you said it was time...?

Do you understand what happens to a person's age with the passage of time?

This is honestly the weirdest attempted "gotcha" I have ever seen.

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Do you understand what happens to a person's age with the passage of time?

This is honestly the weirdest attempted "gotcha" I have ever seen.

JG played his first game 7 years ago, yet he's only 27. Sean Monahan played his first game 7.5 years ago, yet he's only 26.

Large sample size, yet still young.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

JG played his first game 7 years ago, yet he's only 27. Sean Monahan played his first game 7.5 years ago, yet he's only 26.

Large sample size, yet still young.

Yes. What is your point?

[dammage79]

I dont know. I'm kind of enjoying Monahan being a set up man. Flies in the face of the old "he can only do one thing" narrative thats been built up around here for a couple of years now. Clearly there's nothing Monahan can do to please the dissenters. Because he's now gone from one dimensional garbage goal collector to a pretty good playmaker and not a liability defensively.

Ppl really need to take a step back and just let the angst go. Enjoy our players while we got em and let things unfold instead of forcing constant narratives that no longer apply because things and times change, and apparently.....players games.

Look at it this way , as far as Duos go, I don't think anybody can argue they haven't adapted and changed things up, and they're having success doing so.

If you asked a handful of Monahan haters at the beginning of the year if he would be the set upon and not the trigger man, the replies would be hilarious. "Like yeah right, he can't pass". Well, that's now wrong. It wasn't before because they never tried to change things because at the time, Monny pumping in 20-30 goals a year was working.

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Yes. What is your point?

Lol. You must be dizzy.

[CGY12]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Not quite. The Canucks played a very good game in Toronto three nights before their first home game v. Calgary. They outshot the Maple Leafs 32–19 and limited them to 7 shots through the first two periods.


They have. The Flames completely outclassed the Canucks on their two visits to Calgary.


I don't disagree, but I think the reason why they have struggled with consistency has had a lot to do with the schedule. The Flames have played a larger percentage of their schedule on the road so far than any other team in the Division, and they are one of three teams that have played most of their games against the top-three. I am betting that things will correct themselves starting March after the Flames have played over half of their road schedule. After 1 March they will play 20/34 games at the Saddledome

So what is the excuse with the level of consistency over the past 6 years? Man I really admire the positive outlook some of you have but my o my, really can't handle the organizations mentality of "just get in and anything can happen".

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by dammage79

If you asked a handful of Monahan haters at the beginning of the year if he would be the set upon and not the trigger man, the replies would be hilarious. "Like yeah right, he can't pass". Well, that's now wrong. It wasn't before because they never tried to change things because at the time, Monny pumping in 20-30 goals a year was working.

He's not your classic Russian style playmaking center who holds the puck and skates around and create's plays. He's not a guy who carries the puck a lot which I think tends to lead to the assumption that he's a one trick pony who can only shoot the puck.

I do think his passing is a bit under rated in that he can make good one touch passes to team mates. He had 5 straight seasons of 30 assists and 26 last year in a really down year and would have been close to 50 had he played out the 18-19 regular season. I think he see's the ice pretty well and can make some pretty good passes in split second situations. Reminds me a bit of Thomas Holmstrom who in a game would have the puck on his stick for like 30 seconds at the most...but could still have a big impact on games. When the puck is on and off his stick quickly, it usually means good things, he's either found a team mate to set up, or he's got off a good shot.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by CGY12

So what is the excuse with the level of consistency over the past 6 years? Man I really admire the positive outlook some of you have but my o my, really can't handle the organizations mentality of "just get in and anything can happen".

It sounds more like incredulity than admiration.

[CGY12]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

It sounds more like incredulity than admiration.

You may be on to something...

6 years of the same core and we are still talking about "compete level and consistency" lol.

[Cobra]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

It sounds more like incredulity than admiration.

You must be highly educated with such a grand vocabulary.
Never hear these words in any hockey dressing room I have ever been in but hey some people read books and write about hockey and some play the game.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by cobra

you must be highly educated with such a grand vocabulary.
Never hear these words in any hockey dressing room i have ever been in but hey some people read books and write about hockey and some play the game.

lol!

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Cobra

You must be highly educated with such a grand vocabulary.
Never hear these words in any hockey dressing room I have ever been in but hey some people read books and write about hockey and some play the game.

Did you ever make the show? If not, im giving one point to "books" here.

Also how many words were difficult in that sentence?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Cobra

You must be highly educated with such a grand vocabulary.
Never hear these words in any hockey dressing room I have ever been in but hey some people read books and write about hockey and some play the game.

It’s true, you hardly ever hear an Atom say “incredulity”.

[shogged]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

Did you ever make the show? If not, im giving one point to "books" here.

Also how many words were difficult in that sentence?

its not "difficult" but incredulity is definitely a 5 dollar word lol

[-TC-]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Something is off with him overall this season.
13 points in 18 games which isn't bad but he just isn't as dynamic or dangerous.

He had that one nice rush through the neutral zone, got it deep and collected it on his own. That was all I really saw from him that looked like last year.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

My favorite part of last night was Bread slumping Beagle and then Virtanen on their ass one right after the other.

Friggin' love that little bastard.

As a side note, I'm seeing a lot of other teams' fans calling our boys dirty and cheap and so on. I don't really see it. Tkachuk, yeah, obviously. He's been known to slew foot and jab the goalie. But Lindholm? Dube? Mangiapane? I don't really see it.

[-TC-]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

I genuinely don't understand why people remain so invested in the Flames, so full of hope. Perhaps that's a better way of putting it. I too still watch most games, but not full of hope. They don't inspire that in their play, nor does their history.

While I do naturally find myself wanting the Flames to win every game while watching them, in the back of my mind, I'm kind of with Mattman. I think this core needs to be broken down, and the only way that happens, is with losing.

I can help..

You're what's known as a "fair weather fan". A fair weather fan is all in when things are good, but lose interest or become negative when they aren't. Lot's of people are like that.

It's not a criticism, just an observation.


Lots of us aren't that. Lots of us stick around and grind it out because we are invested in the team and don't let wins and losses drive us away. I'm one of those. The Flames don't make it easy, but there you go. They're my team, I'm all in.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Tkachuk was much better in that game. Some very good signs from him, I thought. Hoping he can get on a heater.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire

My favorite part of last night was Bread slumping Beagle and then Virtanen on their ass one right after the other.

Friggin' love that little bastard.

As a side note, I'm seeing a lot of other teams' fans calling our boys dirty and cheap and so on. I don't really see it. Tkachuk, yeah, obviously. He's been known to slew foot and jab the goalie. But Lindholm? Dube? Mangiapane? I don't really see it.

It's because we live in a society where everything is sensationalized. Lindholm's hit on Myers was a hockey play. Myers fell as Lindholm was in the process of throwing a hit against a much bigger player; he didn't have time to pull back, but of course, all the talking heads start crying foul.

It's not just other teams fans, Flames fans do it too. I normal hit or hockey play and it gets blown out of proportion.

It's tiresome. The media does it to generate hits and fans do it cause they don't have work or anything more important to do.