02-14-2021, 09:48 PM
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Winning the Cup is not the measuring stick I should be using to judge success, hmmm. No wonder I've been so disappointed for the least 3 decades. Been doing it all wrong.
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02-14-2021, 10:05 PM
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#402
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by zamler
Winning the Cup is not the measuring stick I should be using to judge success, hmmm. No wonder I've been so disappointed for the least 3 decades. Been doing it all wrong.
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If winning a Cup is your measure, then you will live a life of disappointment. There are still eleven teams who have never done so. For all the frustration in Calgary, Philadelphia and Toronto have not won in more than forty years.
Yes. You have been doing it wrong.
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02-14-2021, 10:15 PM
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#403
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I'm doing it wrong, okay. The authority on how to be a Calgary Flames fan has spoken.
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02-14-2021, 10:16 PM
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#404
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Sweden
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Tough crowd this. Blow it up after every loss, this is WW3 stuff.
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02-14-2021, 10:18 PM
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#405
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Originally Posted by Dajazz
Tough crowd this. Blow it up after every loss, this is WW3 stuff.
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Weird comparison. People are looking at more than one game or one season.
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02-14-2021, 10:22 PM
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#406
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
If winning a Cup is your measure, then you will live a life of disappointment. There are still eleven teams who have never done so. For all the frustration in Calgary, Philadelphia and Toronto have not won in more than forty years.
Yes. You have been doing it wrong.
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If winning the cup isn’t your measure of success, what the heck is?
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02-14-2021, 10:23 PM
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#407
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by zamler
I'm doing it wrong, okay. The authority on how to be a Calgary Flames fan has spoken.
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You're welcome.
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02-14-2021, 10:25 PM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Originally Posted by flamesgod
If winning the cup isn’t your measure of success, what the heck is?
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A competitive team with the chance to win. The best team in the League doesn't always win a Championship. That requires an enormous amount of good fortune on top of everything else.
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02-14-2021, 10:31 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
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The best “teams” are definitely the teams winning cups. The teams that may have better players on paper but not win in the playoffs, weren’t the best team. They may be perceived as having the best individuals but they didn’t come together as a team. So, they weren’t the best.
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02-14-2021, 10:42 PM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
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Originally Posted by flamesgod
The best “teams” are definitely the teams winning cups. The teams that may have better players on paper but not win in the playoffs, weren’t the best team. They may be perceived as having the best individuals but they didn’t come together as a team. So, they weren’t the best.
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Many of the best teams never win, and very often through no fault of their own.
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02-14-2021, 10:45 PM
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You should post some of this stuff on a Canucks forum it will be music to their ears.
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02-14-2021, 10:46 PM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by zamler
You should post some of this stuff on a Canucks forum it will be music to their ears.
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Why would I want to help Canucks fans?
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02-14-2021, 10:47 PM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Originally Posted by zamler
You should post some of this stuff on a Canucks forum it will be music to their ears.
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If you think I am wrong, then feel free to offer correction.
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02-14-2021, 11:15 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
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SJ has the second most wins since 2000. Successful or not? Washington didn’t win a cup until 3 years ago, but I figure it was a successful team before then.
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02-14-2021, 11:27 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
SJ has the second most wins since 2000. Successful or not? Washington didn’t win a cup until 3 years ago, but I figure it was a successful team before then.
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In my eyes no. Success to winning franchises means the cup and only the cup. When thats the goal, their may be some lean years but you don't go 30+ years without winning one. The Flames are the definition of mediocrity, from top to bottom.
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02-14-2021, 11:49 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by CGY12
In my eyes no. Success to winning franchises means the cup and only the cup. When thats the goal, their may be some lean years but you don't go 30+ years without winning one. The Flames are the definition of mediocrity, from top to bottom.
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It's funny how San Jose has been so successful when it comes to the regular season but never won the Cup.
Then L.A. wins two in three years without finishing higher than 3rd in their division.
I recall Daryll Sutter had a strategy where he said he divided the regular season into blocks of 7 games, and the goal was to always win at least 4 of the 7, as a way to prepare for the playoff mentality. You don't need to dominate, but you need to be able to raise your level when the pressure is on.
I am not sure if he passed that psychological technique on to the players, but it sure worked for him as a coach.
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02-15-2021, 12:07 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
They tried to kick open the window too fast and it burned them. Yes the Sam pick was a factor too, but if they were more patient the could have offset that with a couple other higher picks.
The only funny thing is that after watching that happen the Canucks went and made the EXACT SAME MISTAKE.
Stupid Canucks learning from the Stupid Flames.
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Except that the Canucks thought they could rebuild even better than the Flames by signing a whole bunch of aging vets to overpriced deals. Now they're so cap-strapped that they've crippled their rebuild.
Eriksson (6m), Sutter (4.4m), Roussel (3m), Beagle (3m), Myers (6m).
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02-15-2021, 12:30 AM
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#418
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by CGY12
In my eyes no. Success to winning franchises means the cup and only the cup. When thats the goal, their may be some lean years but you don't go 30+ years without winning one. The Flames are the definition of mediocrity, from top to bottom.
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Well, by that definition, then they are in good company along with most of the rest of the NHL.
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02-15-2021, 01:53 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
Well, by that definition, then they are in good company along with most of the rest of the NHL.
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So I guess the franchise should be content since what they are doing is similar to the rest of the league? That type of mentality is exactly why the Flames are where they are and have been for so long.
Forget the cup (even though that should be the only goal), list me the teams that have made it past the first round less times than the Flames in the last 30+ years? If you don't see a problem with how this organization operates, good on you.
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02-15-2021, 05:47 AM
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#420
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CGY12
So I guess the franchise should be content since what they are doing is similar to the rest of the league? That type of mentality is exactly why the Flames are where they are and have been for so long.
Forget the cup (even though that should be the only goal), list me the teams that have made it past the first round less times than the Flames in the last 30+ years? If you don't see a problem with how this organization operates, good on you.
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I was going to sarcastically say what about the recent expansion teams. But the Golden Knights have been out of the first round the same amount of times in their 3 year history as us in the last 30, with more series wins.
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