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				I would structure a deal around Johnny+pieces for Laine. 
			
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See.  I am not sure I would want Laine over Johnny. The only real benefit to Laine is age.  I also highly doubt he works well with Monahan. So you would have to completely restructure the team.  
 
If anything I would rather have Torts come here.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-09-2021, 12:36 PM
			
			
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			If we are going to go for Laine it's an all in move. Need to keep Johnny.  
 
I would be pitching Mango+Bennett+1st maybe... Probably not enough but it's a start.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-09-2021, 12:37 PM
			
			
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			Johnny-Monahan-Laine would be one of the top lines in the league, no doubt in my mind.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-09-2021, 12:42 PM
			
			
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			02-09-2021, 12:45 PM
			
			
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				If we are going to go for Laine it's an all in move. Need to keep Johnny.  
 
I would be pitching Mango+Bennett+1st maybe... Probably not enough but it's a start. 
			
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I don’t even think it is remotely close. It is also a bad move asset wise as I clearly think Laine has his eyes set on a Marner, Matthews, McDavid type contract that gets into the $10M+ range. 
 
He is not worth the assets and not worth his contract ask. We don’t need to be giving up prime assets and cap space for a guy who can’t handle a little tough love and is known to sulk. 
 
If Columbus was contemplating flipping Laine after less than 2 weeks of having him on their roster the amount of red flags is astonishing.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-09-2021, 01:04 PM
			
			
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			I wouldn't read too much into the benching.  It's just Torts sending a message early, so it doesn't become a problem later.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-09-2021, 01:05 PM
			
			
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			02-09-2021, 01:10 PM
			
			
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				I wouldn't read too much into the benching.  It's just Torts sending a message early, so it doesn't become a problem later. 
			
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Yeah this is being blown out of proportion because it's Torts.  I'm sure the player and coach have moved on already.  If it becomes a regular occurance then there may be a story but otherwise there's not much here.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-09-2021, 01:19 PM
			
			
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			Well, Laine is going to learn that he doesn't have to change his game as Columbus will just be forced to change their coach instead. 
 
 
Torts was getting a lot of hate already for his SEEMINGLY mishandling of Dubois (which I don't think he did personally), and he seemed to be doing some PR work there bringing that up after the trade. 
 
 
Laine is sitting there thinking: "Yep, Torts is on his way out."  I think he is.  Only way Torts coaches beyond this season is Columbus does really well.  I think he is done in Columbus.  Maybe it is just perception and nothing else to see here, but time will tell.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-09-2021, 01:21 PM
			
			
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			Ya Torts is on his last legs, Laine just needs to keep scoring goals.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-09-2021, 01:22 PM
			
			
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			The Jackets are having issues retaining talent, just shipped out their franchise center and got a high profile winger in return. And in a matter of 4 games he gets that treatment.  
 
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			02-09-2021, 01:26 PM
			
			
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				Johnny-Monahan-Laine would be one of the top lines in the league, no doubt in my mind. 
			
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Agreed, Uncle Rico.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-09-2021, 03:49 PM
			
			
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			Tortorella seems to be a bit of a blowhard on camera, but behind the scenes he's apparently a pretty nice guy, no?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-09-2021, 03:52 PM
			
			
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				Tortorella seems to be a bit of a blowhard on camera, but behind the scenes he's apparently a pretty nice guy, no? 
			
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A reverse Hartley, then?  
 
I think his players like him because he sticks up for them.  But there’s always guys who can’t be coached and I think he’d have no time for that.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-09-2021, 09:37 PM
			
			
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				Tortorella seems to be a bit of a blowhard on camera, but behind the scenes he's apparently a pretty nice guy, no? 
			
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I think if he likes you, you're golden. If he doesn't like you, your life is miserable.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-09-2021, 09:46 PM
			
			
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			Torts has gotten so much out of that team. If Columbus ever gets rid of him I hope we’re first in line.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-09-2021, 09:49 PM
			
			
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			Torts benched Laine because Laine “mouthed off” to an assistant coach. 
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			02-09-2021, 10:17 PM
			
			
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			“John Tortorella benched Patrik Laine for off-ice interaction with assistant coach 
The left wing 'mouthed off,' to a coach during an off-ice incident, leading to his benching for the final 6:19 of the second period and entire third Monday against the Carolina Hurricanes.”
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-09-2021, 10:36 PM
			
			
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				“John Tortorella benched Patrik Laine for off-ice interaction with assistant coach 
The left wing 'mouthed off,' to a coach during an off-ice incident, leading to his benching for the final 6:19 of the second period and entire third Monday against the Carolina Hurricanes.” 
			
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Who mouths off to a brand new coach?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-09-2021, 10:38 PM
			
			
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			also, if it was an off-ice event, why did the benching start with 6 minutes left in the 2nd period?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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