2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Zacha and McLeod stand out to me a bit more though. Although I don't know if Jersey has an appetite to move either of them. Ppl here don't like McLeod much but I always have, his goals this year so far are the results of his speed, finish and hard work. All you could ask for.

Zacha is a beast. And has a laser shot too boot. Man I'd like that trade.

Meh - both of those are downgrades. Zacha's undelying numbers and his isolated stats from HockeyViz are terrible, like really really bad.

And McLeod has had a good start to the year but his AHL numbers are underwhelming and he's probably not an NHLer on a different team.

I'd rather we add a pick to Bennett to try to get an upgrade.

If Rakell is available he'd be at the top of the list I think, he really would fit in well on the Right side of Gaudreau and Monahan I think.

Bennett+2nd for Rakell...that feels pretty fair.

[Demetric]

FWIW

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Just had an interesting chat with.. someone.... No verification, but don't be surprised if a trade is announced AFTER the game tonight. Reason for waiting: Already enough of a distraction in the room, Bennett is liked enough by players could make the game worse than it will be...


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No confirmation on this at ALL, however, the person I talk with about the Flames is generally right, so we'll see....

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

Looking at benny's and monny's advanced stats is disturbing. Monny had twice as much time on ice last year. far fewer dzone starts and they basically had the same shot generation. sad panda



monny had 1270 mins last year

benny had 650



shot's for per 60



monny had 7.9

benny had 7.6


those are numbers that show me more than plus minus


heck i have even suggested to friends try benny at center with johnny and monny flanking him

you understand that total ice time is irrelevant when comparing shots per 60, right

[Ziggy Lidstrom]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

And yet, somehow, despite all those shortcomings as a hockey player, Ryan has managed consistent +35-point production through every deployment, and regardless of his line mates.



Hilarious.

Out of one side of your mouth you talk about the elusiveness of chemistry over the course of a short-period of deployment.

Then, out of the other side of your mouth you point to several examples of players who saw immediate results in a lineup shuffle.

It is just very difficult to take you seriously.

It wasn’t just a line up shuffle. It was a major trade that changed the landscapes of both situations. We traded Cory still man a sixth overall pick for Connie.

You’re framing this poorly. I have tried to answer your comments with rationale but you seem bent on making me seem unreasonable.

You suggested the audition with Johnny. I said it was fleeting. You won’t be malleable I get it.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

I have tried to answer your comments with rationale but you seem bent on making me seem unreasonable.

You're doing a perfectly good job of seeming unreasonable without any help.

[dammage79]

What am I adding for Rhino out of Buffalo? 1st and Kylington? Ryan?

[Enoch Root]

nm (wrong player)

[TheScorpion]

I believe dammage was talking about Sam Reinhart

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

If you trade for Ristolainen, you would have to expose 2 of:

Andersson, Hanifin, Tanev, Giordano and Ristolainen

SO you would be getting him as a rental (or giving away Tanev)

Rhino=Reinhart.

Risto=Ristolainen

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dammage79

What am I adding for Rhino out of Buffalo? 1st and Kylington? Ryan?

Bennett and a 1st should do it

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Bennett and a 1st should do it

I'm just not sure with the cap and the production difference.

[Monahammer]

Bennett + a 1st for Reinhart seems like a great deal for us. I think Buffalo would want more.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

It wasn’t just a line up shuffle. It was a major trade that changed the landscapes of both situations. We traded Cory still man a sixth overall pick for Connie.

Yes. Exactly. And this makes my point for me: the "chemistry" argument fails because in all of these instances it was something that occurred right away. Bennett has had time and opportunity playing with top-line players, and has never looked great, to my eye. Counter to your earlier points, he is not nearly the equivalent to a player like Monahan who was instantly dominant with Gaudreau, and who was badly missed by Gaudreau when he was injured.

You’re framing this poorly. I have tried to answer your comments with rationale but you seem bent on making me seem unreasonable.

I'm the one framing this poorly? Unbelievable. I think you are getting frustrated by your own feeble attempts to move the goal posts in this argument.

You suggested the audition with Johnny. I said it was fleeting. You can’t be malleable I get it.

And you are ignoring the point that I was making with the Gaudreau piece; a point that I have already repeated, and will do so one more time: GAUDREAU HAS STRUGGLED WITHOUT MONAHAN. This has nothing to do with my malleability. It has to do with data and evidence. If you had any to bolster your ideas about Sam Bennett and Sean Monahan I would happily deal with it. But so far, there has been nothing but platitudes about "intangibles" and "chemistry."

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Demetric

FWIW

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Just had an interesting chat with.. someone.... No verification, but don't be surprised if a trade is announced AFTER the game tonight. Reason for waiting: Already enough of a distraction in the room, Bennett is liked enough by players could make the game worse than it will be...


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No confirmation on this at ALL, however, the person I talk with about the Flames is generally right, so we'll see....

Rip the band aid off, Jesus.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

you understand that total ice time is irrelevant when comparing shots per 60, right

And it would be more evidence that Monahan is better. He had better /60 numbers sustained over a much larger sample. Plus, if anyone is suggesting Bennett's muffin shot is in the same league as Monahan's shot and release, that person has lost the plot...

[genetic_phreek]

Would this trade make sense?

Bennett to FLA
Tippett to CGY

Tippett is a RHS RW. On the taxi squad.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

Would this trade make sense?

Bennett to FLA
Tippett to CGY

Tippett is a RHS RW. On the taxi squad.

That would be a win-win for both clubs. So, no.

[aaronkarlpatton]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

Would this trade make sense?

Bennett to FLA
Tippett to CGY

Tippett is a RHS RW. On the taxi squad.

I would love this trade, larger right handed shot former top ten pick.

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[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

Would this trade make sense?

Bennett to FLA
Tippett to CGY

Tippett is a RHS RW. On the taxi squad.

Maybe, but Tippett has not been even replacement level in his short stints in the NHL.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

Maybe, but Tippett has not been even replacement level in his short stints in the NHL.

I think his skating is not Nhl quality