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Old 02-04-2021, 12:29 AM   #221
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It seems like no matter who is available, whether it be through free agency or a trade, the TSN insiders link Calgary to it. Like Every. Single. Time....

I think Tre just likes talking on the phone.

Then there is Friedman who reports on ‘trade requests’ that haven’t been communicated to the team, based on phone calls he makes pestering agents
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Old 02-04-2021, 02:30 AM   #222
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Not to nitpick, but what DD would Brad be doing? This guy has a history of being a dbag. You don't call up the GM and ask about character issues...you won't get an honest answer. So it's likely he's kicking the tires on him to see the price.


If it gets to the point of ownership approval for the deal, Brad should be fired on the spot. He should be smarter than this to think he can try and change the guy.
I think GMs are propably mostly pretty honest to each other about this stuff, because it's in their long term interest to be seen as trustworthy negotiation partners.

That isn't due diligence though. DD would be crosschecking multiple sources to make sure it's NOT a case of the Rangers just not liking a guy for his political views, or an unfair dogpile which has driven a young player to lash out.

That crosschecking is also how everything leaks, because then multiple people know the Flames es are asking questions about DeAngelo.
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[MOD EDIT] We don't need this garbage here.

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Old 02-04-2021, 06:33 AM   #224
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[MOD EDIT] We don't need this garbage here.
I think you nailed it here.

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Old 02-04-2021, 08:07 AM   #225
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I think GMs are propably mostly pretty honest to each other about this stuff, because it's in their long term interest to be seen as trustworthy negotiation partners.

That isn't due diligence though. DD would be crosschecking multiple sources to make sure it's NOT a case of the Rangers just not liking a guy for his political views, or an unfair dogpile which has driven a young player to lash out.

That crosschecking is also how everything leaks, because then multiple people know the Flames es are asking questions about DeAngelo.

That seems plausible, and I can see Treliving wanting to double-check on everything - even if not for right now, but later down the road and have a 'book' on DeAngelo.


Another possibility is that Treliving is circling like a vulture right now and trying to pick at the carcass a bit. Rangers were supposed to be a decent team this season aiming for the playoffs, and now find themselves in a bit of turmoil here. Maybe there are a few assets that Treliving and/or the scouting department covets and he is trying to get them to shake loose.


I think Treliving handled the Peters situation well, especially considering they were friends and he obviously thought highly of Peters. I can't imagine that he would go and give himself another huge headache with DeAngelo, as it will fairly (or playing devil's advocate here, unfairly) bring a huge spotlight and controversy onto this team.


Even if the racial and homophobic slurs didn't happen (or that he learned from these and 'grew up'), he still seems like a terrible teammate, and someone that would be incredibly difficult to bring into any locker room.



DeAngelo also has another year @4.8 million for next season.



I think the Rangers would obviously rather trade him than deal with the legalities of trying to terminate that contract. Keeping him on the Taxi Squad for the rest of the season doesn't make the problem go away (though it probably lessens it), and telling the player to 'go home' and paying him would probably be an issue with the PA.


It is an interesting predicament that the Rangers have on their hands as to how to best deal with DeAngelo at the moment.


If DeAngelo gets traded, it will be interesting to see how that next team deals with him.
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Hmmm what do you think the market would be for a Flames DeAngelo jersey?
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Old 02-04-2021, 08:23 AM   #227
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You guys can all relax. Molberg has tweeted that according to his source at the Saddledome the Flames have no interest in acquiring D'Angelo.

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Old 02-04-2021, 08:26 AM   #228
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Hmmm what do you think the market would be for a Flames DeAngelo jersey?
Panthers or Arizona.

He has to go to a place where the team is not that big of a deal.

Fans would be ripping his to shreds here
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Old 02-04-2021, 09:03 AM   #229
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Another possibility is that Treliving is circling like a vulture right now and trying to pick at the carcass a bit. Rangers were supposed to be a decent team this season aiming for the playoffs, and now find themselves in a bit of turmoil here. Maybe there are a few assets that Treliving and/or the scouting department covets and he is trying to get them to shake loose.
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Yeah this also seems like something a guy like Treliving who kind of loves homework would be doing.

"There's stuff going on with the Rangers, let's see if there's opportunities here." Are there disgruntled players who want out, is the Rangers management looking to replace DeAngelo?

It's not like there's a ton of other stuff to keep track of right now anyway, the hockey world os relatively speaking pretty quiet now.

... As a bit of a sidetrack, I just realized that building a reputation as someone who is always looking into everything and always asking questions even when he's not really seriously interested is a pretty good way to sort of cover up what you're actually interested in.

Water is wet, earth is a geoid, Treliving is kicking tires and asking questions. These things are kind of just given, so with that reputation it doesn't mean anything when Treliving is snooping around... until it does.
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Panthers or Arizona.

He has to go to a place where the team is not that big of a deal.

Fans would be ripping his to shreds here
After the Mitchell Miller fiasco and the fact they already had him I highly doubt Arizona makes that move.
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I can't believe that Treliving would be so stupid as to bring a guy like DeAngelo into the room after the issues with Bill Peters last year...
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Deangelo is no longer listed on the Rangers' roster.
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Please for the love of all things holy and sane, NO DEANGELO ON FLAMES I BEG YOU
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Old 02-04-2021, 10:18 AM   #235
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If we trade for this guy, we are hands down the most hated maligned pariah of a team in the NHL.
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Deangelo is no longer listed on the Rangers' roster.
He did get waived. Are they listing folks on the taxi squad on the roster? Could be a paper transaction.
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Old 02-04-2021, 10:34 AM   #237
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I can't believe that Treliving would be so stupid as to bring a guy like DeAngelo into the room after the issues with Bill Peters last year...
Maybe, just maybe Tre is calling the Rangers to see if other players are available because with them moving DeAngelo out they could need a defenceman, Kyillinton (?), for another player. Maybe they have a right show forward.

So maybe he is seeing if Rangers want to replace DeAngelo and have something that could help the Flames with a right shot forward.
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If we trade for this guy, we are hands down the most hated maligned pariah of a team in the NHL.
Then we at least have an identity. Haha
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We are already the most hated in the Canadian division, and likely among the former Pacific teams.

That being said, I really hope we dont pick up this mook.
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I also think he digs into every single player available for intel ...

- who's kicking tires
- what's the asking price

if a rival is in there doing the same, he could drive up the price

I would assume there was zero chance that team that had the Peters issue last year would step into this hot mess.
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