Blow it up!

[Flashpoint]

Calgary has not had a #1 center since Joe Nieuwendyk.

Monahan is a very nice #2 who is fortunate to play with a very capable LW who can get him the puck in the slot.

You need a real #1 center to in a cup. It was exciting to get Jokinen because we thought he was that 90pt gamebreaker. Instead we got Swoopy. Twice.

It was exciting to draft Sam Bennett and then see him score as an 18 year old in the playoffs. And have a four goal game in his rookie season. Unfortunately the ultimate takeaway about a guy who hides a shoulder injury in his draft year is that, yes, he is in fact (sadly) too dumb to be a top player in the NHL. He does too many stupid things to be successful.

Right now our goaltending is AAA. Our defence is probably both as good as its been since Dion’s rookie year, but also has a ton of young potential.

And at forward we have a good 2nd and 3rd line with Johnny and Mony, Lindholm, Backlund, and Tkachuk. Dube and Eat Bread mix in to those top 6.

But no gamebreaking first line center = no long term success.

[Two Fivenagame]

I agree but I just don't see how the flames can get a top centre during this window.

[Doctorfever]

Lock this thread.
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[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Lock this thread.
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Yeah, the next 11 games are vs Wpg, Edm and Van

The challenging 4 game stretch is behind the team

[Hackey]

There is no way they blow it up. Even if the Flames miss the playoffs the changes won't be enough to make any type of major difference. As a fan your best bet is to accept this is what it is, hope they have a bit of success, wait for our team to slowly decline, and then maybe in 5 years we will get another rebuild.

[David Struch]

Changes will eventually come to Calgary, most likely the following guys.

Sam Bennett
Derek Ryan
Noah Hanifin
Oliver Kylington
David Rittich
Mark Giordano
Johnny Gaudreau

The Flames will be lucky to receive significant assets for Johnny and Hanifin.

Tkachuk - Lindholm - Mangiapane
______ - Monahan - Dubé
Lucic - Backlund - Pelletier
Zary - Emilio Pettersen - Ruzicka

Välimäki - Andersson
______ - Kinnvall
Mackey - Tanev

Markström
Zagidulin

I should add Gaudreau and Giordano may NOT be moved immediately but could be dealt in the teams contingency plans. (if things go downhill)

[TheSquatch]

Originally Posted by David Struch

Changes will eventually come to Calgary, most likely the following guys.

Sam Bennett
Derek Ryan
Noah Hanifin
Oliver Kylington
David Rittich
Mark Giordano
Johnny Gaudreau

The Flames will be lucky to receive significant assets for Johnny and Hanifin.

Tkachuk - Lindholm - Mangiapane
______ - Monahan - Dubé
Lucic - Backlund - Pelletier
Zary - Emilio Pettersen - Ruzicka

Välimäki - Andersson
______ - Kinnvall
Mackey - Tanev

Markström
Zagidulin

Why Hanifin, do you think? I see weakness on the left D, I'd keep Hanifin around, I think he's improving.

[the_only_turek_fan]

Gio is going no where.

He is still a useful player at 20 minutes a night and eats, sleeps, and breathes Calgary Flames.

Why are some people trying to push players out who are good and WANT to be here.

I look forward to him becoming the second Flame to play 1000 games next season.

[TheSquatch]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Gio is going no where.

He is still a useful player at 20 minutes a night and eats, sleeps, and breathes Calgary Flames.

Why are some people trying to push players out who are good and WANT to be here.

I look forward to him becoming the second Flame to play 1000 games next season.

Because he's looked slow and at times just awful over the last 2 seasons, and we learned a few years ago not to hold onto "assets" until they have no value? Seattle expansion is coming. I protect Valimaki, Tanev, and Ras before Gio.

[David Struch]

Välimäki is exempt.

[David Struch]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Gio is going no where.

CLAUSE DETAILS: Starting 2020-21, Lists 19 teams he can be traded to

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/mark-giordano

If there's one place Mark Giordano may be happier playing than here, it's Toronto.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by TheSquatch

Because he's looked slow and at times just awful over the last 2 seasons, and we learned a few years ago not to hold onto "assets" until they have no value? Seattle expansion is coming. I protect Valimaki, Tanev, and Ras before Gio.

Yeah. So he won the Norris trophy the season before last

[TheSquatch]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Yeah. So he won the Norris trophy the season before last

You're right, felt like longer to me I guess because of the split season last year. I thought he was rusty looking early, and I thought he was still rusty looking later when they picked up again and did the playoffs. Talking 2019-2020 season.

I thought Gio looked tired and slow when they played the Avs in the playoffs and got smashed in the face, he looked to me like he had no way to combat a fast team. That's the same year he won the Norris, yeah? 2018-2019 season. That season ended with a disgraceful performance from everyone but Mike Smith really.

So I don't think he's looked like vintage Gio for a while here, it's not 2 years, but it's 1.5 stretching to the end of the season before last. I think he pushed like hell after that arm injury, and it won him the Norris to do so. It also cost him physically and maybe mentally, I dunno. But you show me a recent game where Giordano has skated, hit, and dominated like he used to. It ain't there and hasn't been 2019.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Not dominated, since they changed style post ASG 2019

Last year the whole team was off. Like a year long full moon

I think Brodie gave him a lot of freedom, when they played the right style

Liked his compete yesterday, he was really good defensively

[Sandman]

Hanifin has been great since he got away from Hamonic. I would be hesitant to let him go.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Hanifin has been great since he got away from Hamonic. I would be hesitant to let him go.

I’d actually like to see Hanifin Gio and Tanev Andersson

[lazypucker]

Gio won't get picked by Seattle even if he is exposed.

But I am concerned about the ROI for Backlund. While this year he is OK, but I don't think he will be a $5.35 mil player for the remainder of his contract. Don't even know if Seattle will pick him if he is exposed either.

It may come down to the Flames exposing Gio, Backlund, Lucic, and Bennett and Seattle won't pick any one of them because of various reasons (age, ROI from their contracts, etc.)

[David Struch]

Originally Posted by lazypucker

Gio won't get picked by Seattle even if he is exposed.

But I am concerned about the ROI for Backlund. While this year he is OK, but I don't think he will be a $5.35 mil player for the remainder of his contract. Don't even know if Seattle will pick him if he is exposed either.

It may come down to the Flames exposing Gio, Backlund, Lucic, and Bennett and Seattle won't pick any one of them because of various reasons (age, ROI from their contracts, etc.)

Less than a year till the expansion draft, let's see how well this quote ages.

I cannot envision any scenario where Mikael Backlund is not protected by the Flames.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

I’d actually like to see Hanifin Gio and Tanev Andersson

I kinda thought that's what would happen before the season started.

[Chonger]

Originally Posted by David Struch

Less than a year till the expansion draft, let's see how well this quote ages.



I cannot envision any scenario where Mikael Backlund is not protected by the Flames.

I dont think anyone would want Backlund on that contract. He doesn't need to be protected.

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