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Old 01-30-2021, 10:55 AM   #6361
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I may be off base, but Virtanen doesn't strike me as a good bet. He screams Mason Raymond to me - someone who due to a lack of depth on a team, plays higher up in the lineup and accumulates more points because of it.



I hear stuff like "Bennett has no hockey IQ" - which I disagree with actually, and it shows often at both ends of the rink. However, for those that feel that Bennett doesn't think the game very well, just ask a Canuck fan about how Virtanen thinks the game, or what his commitment level is.


If the Flames are trading Bennett, I would much rather it be in a package for something good, rather than a 1for1 trade for something that you know just won't work out.
This would be preferred. However apart from us, who else takes a bunch of scrap and trades a good player? When we have posters saying Bennett’s value is a 3rd (which is probably not too far off), what else do you have to throw in to get something good back? We know teams have been interested in Bennett in the past but were lowballing. Bennett hasn’t popped to make those offers improve. So you are probably looking at a reclamation project for another reclamation project. If tre can get a decent player in a package, more power to him, but I don’t see other teams offering a lot back for Bennett unless the deal is sweetened considerably from our end.
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Old 01-30-2021, 10:56 AM   #6362
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We already got that from Vancouver. It’s Josh Leivo
Josh Leivo was arguably better than Virtanen in Vancouver over the past two years.
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Old 01-30-2021, 11:02 AM   #6363
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Konecny a healthy scratch today...I do something around Gaudreau and him in a second.
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Konecny a healthy scratch today...I do something around Gaudreau and him in a second.
i wish
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Old 01-30-2021, 11:07 AM   #6365
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Konecny a healthy scratch today...I do something around Gaudreau and him in a second.
Can't be due to his play right? with 8 points and 5 goals in 8 games.
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Old 01-30-2021, 11:13 AM   #6366
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Can't be due to his play right? with 8 points and 5 goals in 8 games.
Sounds like it is according to Elliott Friedman and others on Twitter :shrug:
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Sounds like it is according to Elliott Friedman and others on Twitter :shrug:
Sounds like an issue in the room, and that team is crying out for some veteran presence. Could we interest you in a slightly used, highly overpaid left winger, centre, or former Norris winner? We make you good price! For Konecny, we’ll even let you have two of those guys!
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Sounds like it is according to Elliott Friedman and others on Twitter :shrug:
In that case, an early season deal involving Konecny and Gaudreau would be really sweet. Doubt it would happen though.
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Old 01-30-2021, 11:20 AM   #6369
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I could see it.

Kevin Hayes would love to have his best friend on the team, and unlike other markets you’re not worried about Gaudreau only having 18 months left on his deal. He’s likely re-signing there the second it’s an option.

Gaudreau’s had a good start and looks more engaged this year but I truly think it’s a deal that could help both teams.
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I still want Nolan Patrick out of Philly. He's playing and producing.
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Old 01-30-2021, 12:22 PM   #6371
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I still want Nolan Patrick out of Philly. He's playing and producing.
Don’t see the Flyers moving him after his hot start.
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Old 01-30-2021, 12:43 PM   #6372
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If the Flames keep struggling I wonder if Philly would do

Patrick, Konecny, 2021 1st Round Pick, 2021 2nd Round Pick for Monahan, Johnny.





I guess the cap wouldnt work.
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Old 01-30-2021, 12:43 PM   #6373
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If you are trading Gaudreau for Konecny he better bring quite a bit to the team because if you subtract Johnny off the Flames roster so far this season, they are bad like Ottawa.
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Old 01-30-2021, 12:55 PM   #6374
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If the Flames keep struggling I wonder if Philly would do

Patrick, Konecny, 2021 1st Round Pick, 2021 2nd Round Pick for Monahan, Johnny.





I guess the cap wouldnt work.
That and it’s an awful deal for Philly
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Old 01-30-2021, 12:59 PM   #6375
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Haha trying to put it in the Flames favor
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That and it’s an awful deal for Philly
How is that an awful deal for Philly?
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How is that an awful deal for Philly?
14m cap in. Less than 4 total years cost controlled vs. 6m Cap out and close to a decade of lost cost control? On top of a pick downgrade?


Just need to K.I.S.S IMO.

Do Mangi instead of Monny. Money works better and I think both teams end up happy.

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Old 01-30-2021, 01:53 PM   #6378
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It’s isn’t even a pick downgrade...Philly is giving both the first and second
I don’t know they would even do that deal with the picks not included
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Old 01-30-2021, 02:03 PM   #6379
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All you’re getting from Philly for Gaudreau is Voracek, picks and scrubs. No way are they moving Konecny or Patrick.
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Hmm but Voracek would call out Francis over a zoom call. Might be a win.
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