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Old 01-22-2021, 10:15 PM   #281
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Dumb but serious question:

What if losing Monahan means losing Johnny?

Meaning: Johnny decides if Monahan is traded, he won’t re-sign here, and we don’t trade him pre-UFA so lose him for nothing. Is trading Monahan for Dubois still a good deal?

Please no: “if that causes Johnny to leave we don’t want him anyway” responses.
This is a legit question.
Well it would be the teams own choosing not to recoup anything for Gaudreau. Looking forward can the Flames really commit 9-10 million a year to a winger, who will be 28 to 34 type of thing? So if they do decide to allow Gaudreau to go, there is money that's available to retain Dubois, given Tkachuck another contract, and do some other things.

The decision to retain Gaudreau is complex enough on it's own, and shoudl be considered 100% independently of whether Monahan is in the fold or not. I wouldn't even have it on my radar. Realistically the team likely does need to establish a new group of guys to lead the charges offensively and move on from Monahan and Gaudreau.
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Dumb but serious question:

What if losing Monahan means losing Johnny?

Meaning: Johnny decides if Monahan is traded, he won’t re-sign here, and we don’t trade him pre-UFA so lose him for nothing. Is trading Monahan for Dubois still a good deal?

Please no: “if that causes Johnny to leave we don’t want him anyway” responses.
This is a legit question.
Then Johnny would need to be shipped out before the trade deadline too. None of this sedin brothers from another mother bs. The Carter/Richards timeline would be complete.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/2MuttsPod...41077405880320

Don’t think this is very credible.
Possibly not, I’ve never head of 2 Mutts podcast but they do get a lot of credible guests on the pod, including nhl players and sportsnet and tsn media members
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https://mobile.twitter.com/2MuttsPod...41077405880320

Don’t think this is very credible.
They seem to have some legit guests, recently Kyle Brodziak. So, they at least have NHL adjacent connections.
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The host of the podcast @JMarshyBoscoe93 has tried to break Flames news before but I can’t remember if he’s ever gotten anything right...feel like he hasn’t.

Probably just trying to drum up traffic to his podcast
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I think the Flames get him and it'll be like when the got Hamilton. We will all sit here and think it cost Johnny or Monahan or something crazy and it'll be for a lot less than we expected.
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Double post -

But to follow up on that 2MuttsPodcast rumour I’d put little faith into it.

I looked at the guys Twitter and he has stuff around the Flames making a big move after putting Ryan/Kylington on waivers, said the Tkachuk deal would be 6 years, said the Islanders were going to offer sheet Marner.

So yeah don’t think he’s ever been right on anything.

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The host of the podcast @JMarshyBoscoe93 has tried to break Flames news before but I can’t remember if he’s ever gotten anything right...feel like he hasn’t.

Probably just trying to drum up traffic to his podcast
It likely worked...lol. I’m going to give the Milan lucic episode a listen
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Backlund and a D prospect and a 2021 2nd.

Then flip PLD for a Nylander or a Reinhardt quality RW and a 1st.
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Brad is just playing the trade up game.

Some picks --> hamilton
Hamilton + ferland --> Lindy + Hanifin
Hanifin + Bennett --> PLD
PLD + Kylington --> Eichel

Then bam we get 6 cups in 5 years.

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Backlund and a D prospect and a 2021 2nd.
Click. “Yarmo? Hello? Yarmo did you hang up on me?”
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Backlund and a D prospect and a 2021 2nd.

Then flip PLD for a Nylander or a Reinhardt quality RW and a 1st.
D prospect is Valimaki and change the 2nd to a 1st and add Pelletier and that may get it done.
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But to follow up on that 2MuttsPodcast rumour I’d put little faith into it.

I looked at the guys Twitter and he has stuff around the Flames making a big move after putting Ryan/Kylington on waivers, said the Tkachuk deal would be 6 years, said the Islanders were going to offer sheet Marner.

So yeah don’t think he’s ever been right on anything.
I wouldn’t doubt that we find out sometime in the future, long after PLD is playing for WPG or MTL, that Treliving actually did make a big offer for PLD and just missed out. If this guy is gonna make a prediction, this one is pretty realistic. Maybe he actually does have a source? Maybe he doesn’t? Either way, that sounds like Brad.
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But to follow up on that 2MuttsPodcast rumour I’d put little faith into it.

I looked at the guys Twitter and he has stuff around the Flames making a big move after putting Ryan/Kylington on waivers, said the Tkachuk deal would be 6 years, said the Islanders were going to offer sheet Marner.

So yeah don’t think he’s ever been right on anything.
I remember this guy and he was right on one move and mentioned it months before but he called the Jagr signing. That is the only thing he got right I can recall.
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They seem to have some legit guests, recently Kyle Brodziak. So, they at least have NHL adjacent connections.
I follow a few very small Flames podcasts that have managed to get some pretty decent guests. That doesn’t mean the hosts are credible insiders, they’re just dudes on Twitter like you or me.
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I remember this guy and he was right on one move and mentioned it months before but he called the Jagr signing. That is the only thing he got right I can recall.
Interesting
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Regarding Pierre-Luc Dubois trade talks, as of late last night/early this morning: Winnipeg is believed to have the best offer on the table, and #CBJ continue to gauge the market to see if it will be bettered.

Jarmo Kekalainen has made big asks of the teams still involved.
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D prospect is Valimaki and change the 2nd to a 1st and add Pelletier and that may get it done.
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Its pretty hard to see any of the other teams involved beating an offer including Laine plus. Hes weird AF but 22 years old and has scored 44 goals in a season and been solid in other years as well.

As much as the flames could build a package for dubois, I just don't see them having that caliber of asset to part with. Monahan, Dube, Mangiapane I've heard kicked around... I love them all but on the trade market I dont see them as anywhere near as valuable as Laine. Hate to be the wet blanket on it and love to be wrong and see them grab him without trading Lindholm or Tkachuk.

That being said roslovic is overrated something fierce and maybe they want quantity?
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NHL Rumours Daily who had been right on a lot this past year has it being a bigger deal including Laine + Roslovic for Dubois + 1st...which makes more sense IMO

Laine should have slightly more value then Dubois & Roslovic probably worth a second - so the CBJ adds a conditional 1st and it evens it out.

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